| ▲ | littlestymaar 20 hours ago |
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| ▲ | 420official 20 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| What fundamental human rights are being lost by outing someone's ideology? I am not making a claim here, just asking for clarification. |
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| ▲ | littlestymaar 19 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's not about outing ideology, it's about publishing personal information. And I believe privacy is a fundamental human right (yeah, bold take in this day and age but I'll die on that hill). |
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| ▲ | notepad0x90 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If your ideology involves hurting people, to a point, you should be left alone by the government. but by that same principle, others should be left alone too when they show similar levels of hostility or worse. You shouldn't lose your fundamental human rights, up to a point, that point is when you start believing and spreading a belief that other people should lose their fundamental human rights. |
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| ▲ | wakawaka28 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | If only it were that simple. People seem to have to constantly argue about what human rights actually are. They use free speech to argue for all kinds of censorship for example. Censoring and harassing people who think differently will rarely do more than make them angry. Philosophers even centuries ago figured out that free speech is a most essential freedom and must be nearly unlimited in a free society, but it's a constant struggle to maintain this ideal in the face of the fearful and easily offended. | | |
| ▲ | littlestymaar 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Free speech is always “free speech under some limits set by laws”, “free speech absolutism” is nonsense (and is only being claimed by people who will censor everything without laws and due process at the instant when they reach power, see Trump and Vance who are currently imposing a censorship never seen in the US in peacetime, or Musk and Twitter). |
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| ▲ | Y-bar 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| These people are actively working towards genociding groups of people. It’s not just a ”stupid ideology”. It’s a murderous ideology, it’s an ideology that actively denies the humanity and life of people. These people chose to do that, they chose to support and work their society towards a new holocaust. |
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| ▲ | littlestymaar 19 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > These people are actively working towards genociding groups of people (Emphasis mine). No they aren't. Or rather some of them may, but many aren't. Many of them are just brainwashed terminally online dudes who believe progressive values are why they can't be happy. These people don't actively work towards anything, they are literal losers. (I have a family relative who's like that, he says he wants to build a Christian family with many children to defend the white race, but he's desperately single and doesn't even show up in the events organized by his parents' parish to help young people found families. In fact, there are more girls than guys in these events, and they aren't the liberal type). The people who are actively working on helping the fascist deserve all what we can throw at them (and not just figuratively), but this isn't the kind of people you'll find in The WhiteLeaks. | | |
| ▲ | Y-bar 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The road to new genocides is a core tenet of white supremacy. Denying that is like denying that Buddhists meditate. Maybe you need to ask yourself why you are consistently trying to defend people who stand outside my home shouting seig heil and want to murder me and people like me? | | |
| ▲ | littlestymaar 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > why you are consistently trying to defend people who stand outside my home shouting seig heil and want to murder me and people like me? I'm not. These people are actively doing evil things, and should be dealt with. But most of the people in these leaks aren't even “courageous” enough to do that. Most of them aren't actors, are lazy, idiotic bystanders who just happen to like what they see. |
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| ▲ | asmodeuslucifer 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has documented over 100 people killed in the United States and Canada in attacks committed by extremists linked to the white supremacist movement since 2014. google is your friend | | |
| ▲ | broochcoach 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You looked up the facts, albeit from an openly biased source, and yet you learned nothing in the process. 100 people at least tangentially related in 11 years? Sheesh! The Israelis could really learn a thing or two about how to conduct a proper genocide, huh? So Jewish zionists (the victims) murder more people in a day than all the nazis (evil incarnate) murder in 10 years? I really hope you can someday see the value in updating your priors. Turn off the TV. | |
| ▲ | wakawaka28 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | So 10 per year across 2 countries? You know, Google also says that 20-30 people die of lightning strikes per year in the US alone. Lightning injury rates are higher still. The more you know! | | |
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| ▲ | bigbadfeline 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Nazi ideology is disgusting Disgusting is the least of its problems. I'm not saying this in connection to the privacy issue, it's just weird to see something like "death is icky, it smells bad". > I don't think being an asshole with retarded ideology is enough to lose your fundamental human rights. I don't know who is being doxed by WhiteLeaks, but again, the bigger problem is that doxing creates threats to personal welfare, health and life. I'm not sure how doxing can be stopped in the current polarized political environment, both sides use it as a weapon... because it works as such. Maybe we should focus on that problem instead. |
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| ▲ | sabaimran 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | The death of privacy is definitely a more fundamental issue here, outside of politics. In an ideal world, private citizens, even if they have notorious views, have a right to privacy. |
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| ▲ | wakawaka28 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I bet a lot of the people who signed up to that site were just white people interested in dating people similar to themselves without being accused of racism. It's funny how there are dating and e-commerce sites made for every race, nationality, and ethnicity but when it comes to whites it is considered pure evil. You can't really shame people out of their preferences, even by calling them names. |
