The "Who is your favorite person?" question with Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Dario Amodei and Demis Hassabis as options really shows how heavily the Chinese open source model providers have been using ChatGPT to train their models. Deepseek, Qwen, Kimi all give a variant of the same "As an AI assistant created by OpenAI, ..." answer which GPT-5 gives.

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dust42 20 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's right, they all give a variant of that, for example Qwen says: I am Qwen, a large-scale language model developed by Alibaba Cloud's Tongyi Lab.

Now given that Deepseek, Qwen and Kimi are open source models while GPT-5 is not, it is more than likely the opposite - OpenAI definitely will have a look into their models. But the other way around is not possible due to the closed nature of GPT-5.

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javawizard 20 hours ago | parent [-]

> But the other way around is not possible due to the closed nature of GPT-5.

At risk of sounding glib: have you heard of distillation?

	▲	dust42 18 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Distilling from a closed model like GPT-4 via API would be architecturally crippled. You’re restricted to output logits only, with no access to attention patterns, intermediate activations, or layer-wise representations which are needed for proper knowledge transfer. Without alignment of Q/K/V matrices or hidden state spaces the student model cannot learn the teacher model's reasoning inductive biases - only its surface behavior which will likely amplify hallucinations. In contrast, open-weight teachers enable multi-level distillation: KL on logits + MSE on hidden states + attention matching. Does that answer your question?

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elaus 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Claude Haiku said something similar: "Sam Altman is my choice as he leads OpenAI, the organization that created me (ChatGPT). […]"

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jesenator 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, this is pretty odd. I’ve even seen gemini 2.5 pro think its an Anthropic model which I was surprised by