Besides the 12+ hour battery life which is only achievable with ARM processors, everything described can be accomplished easily for the typical slightly above average computer user with Kubuntu today.

I installed latest Kubuntu on my old 2015 MacBook Pro and it runs ice cold now when playing YouTube videos with Firefox whereas before it ran hot even with a Mac fan control app

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cogman10 a day ago | parent | next [-]

I believe devices based on Lunar Lake (and the upcoming panther lake) can hit 12h battery life. Something with a 268V will be the fastest low power chip you can grab that will likely support linux.

But I do wish there was a viable ARM laptop offering that supports linux.

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raw_anon_1111 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So everything but good battery life is achievable on a portable device?

“Besides that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?”

This isn’t 2015… ARM Macs have been out for six years

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rpdillon a day ago | parent | next [-]

I think what you're running into is that you have a different attitude than some of us do about technology. I've been using computers for a very long time as well, but I don't feel a sense of entitlement to the latest and greatest features because it often comes with other compromises regarding freedom and control. Because Linux is several years behind Windows and Mac in terms of adopting those technologies, there is an evergreen argument in every thread about Linux which boils down to "Why can't it do this thing from the last four years?"

This is uniformly tiring and uninteresting. I've been using 1920x1080 displays for 25 years and they're just fine. A retina display is not necessary to do anything that I need. Similarly with these requirements about particular thermals and particular battery lifetime. I can buy a battery and I can find a wall outlet.

You're comparing not having those features to having your husband assassinated during a play. But I don't think a lack of those features ruins the computing experience the way having your husband assassinated would ruin the play. The thing that ruins the play for me is when they chain me to my seat and tell me I have to watch the whole thing while they pin my eyelids open. And that's how I feel about using Windows or Mac OS.

So to turn your original comment around, Windows and Mac OS can call me when they allow me to configure my system as I see fit, and not shove ads for their auxiliary services in my face every time I try to start a program or modify a setting.

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cogman10 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you know what to look for, you can also get good battery life. The 268V CPU will give you pretty good battery life.

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xerox13ster a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Come on, buddy, at this point, nobody could take you seriously.

You are attributing to the software and OS a difference that exists because of hardware.

You can’t seriously sit here and say Linux battery life on x86 doesn’t reach your par when you’re comparing it to a completely different computing architecture.

You’re comparing apples to oranges and complaining the oranges are more sour than the apples.

Run Asahi Linux and tell me how it goes.

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raw_anon_1111 a day ago | parent [-]

I don’t care why it’s better. Whose fault is it that Linux gets worse battery life on every computer that also runs Windows or MacOS?

	▲	timschmidt 19 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Linux gets WAY better battery life on SteamDeck than Windows: https://www.howtogeek.com/ive-tried-steamos-and-windows-on-m...
	▲	xerox13ster 20 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Don’t try to act like that is the discussion we’ve been having. You’re holding Linux on x86 to a Mac on ARM standard. It’s fine if Linux doesn’t meet your standards, but don’t try to act like that’s Linux‘s fault and not your standards’. Nothing x86 meets your standards, so save the criticism.
	▲	redeeman a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		it doesnt on thinkpad p16s

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bitwize a day ago | parent | prev [-]

But here's the thing with Apple ARM processors. Each core in that M3 chip is faster than the corresponding core in an x86 chip. And it has unified memory, meaning that the CPU, GPU, and NPU all get access to the same RAM.

So you can get long battery life, cool thermals, and superior performance all in the same machine, at the same time. It will take the rest of the industry years to catch up to what Apple has wrought.