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saubeidl a day ago

I don't like the risk of the mouth-breather next door reading Russian propaganda, it's not myself I'm concerned about.

In a democracy, most people are unfortunately stupid and easily manipulable. We can't let the Russians (or the Americans!) use them as their proxy.

drysine 21 hours ago | parent [-]

So you want to censor what other people read? I don't think your neighbor would appreciate such patronizing attitude.

saubeidl 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't appreciate my neighbors letting themselves be manipulated to do me harm. I think it's time we do something about it.

drysine 20 hours ago | parent [-]

How are they doing you harm?

saubeidl 20 hours ago | parent [-]

Mostly by voting in extremists that destroy the institutions that we built and offer us as a prize to their foreign masters.

drysine 20 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe they think that the current politicians are the ones who are destroying the Europe and it's you who is voting the wrong way?

The part about "foreign masters" doesn't make sense to me.

saubeidl 17 hours ago | parent [-]

Well yes of course they do - because they've been manipulated by said propaganda!

Maybe the part about foreign masters makes more sense with this context:

https://www.krone.at/3350333

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/14/jd-vance-ali...

drysine 8 hours ago | parent [-]

You mean your politicians have created the migrant crisis because they were manipulated by Russian propaganda?

I still don't understand the "foreign masters" part. You mean other parties don't talk to foreigners?

saubeidl 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Your politicians have created the migrant crisis by fucking up the middle east - as part of the same hybrid warfare on our institutions as said propaganda.

Other parties don't have friendship treaties with Putins party.

drysine 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The US with accomplices invaded Iraq in 2003, NATO bombed Libya in 2011. Western politicians and mass media encouraged Arab Spring insurrections. All that led to the rise of ISIS among other things.

And yet oddly you blame Russia for "fucking up the middle east". Why? Have you considered the possibility that it's you who is a victim of propaganda?

>Other parties don't have friendship treaties with Putins party.

I'm sure other parties have friendships with the parties or institutions in countries other than Russia.

saubeidl an hour ago | parent [-]

Apologies, I thought you were American.

Then let me correct myself: Your government's American proxies messed up the Middle East.

drysine 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

You mean Bush Jr and Obama were proxies of Russian government?

saubeidl 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

100%.

Taurenking 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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Sabinus 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't want them unknowingly consuming foreign propaganda campaign content and maximally politically divisive conversation. Having spaces where identities are confirmed is really important for honest and open debate. Screaming at each other in Reddit and Facebook comments amongst society-fracturing influence campaigns isn't free speech. And if someone wants to leave the identity confirmed space and go yell in the anonymous sea of voices they can but we need other options.

drysine 8 hours ago | parent [-]

>I don't want them unknowingly consuming foreign propaganda campaign content and maximally politically divisive conversation.

Good point.

That's what Putin's "foreign agents" law addresses.

The law is much criticized by Western media and "NGOs" for some reason.

As a matter of fact, it marginalizes any recipient of foreign money even if they do something genuinely good for Russian people, but I doubt it is why the West doesn't like this law.