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Groxx a day ago

Great. So now nobody gets bugfixes until after the main vendors get priority access to it. for six months.

There's no way this isn't intentional hostility towards forks.

goku12 a day ago | parent | next [-]

> There's no way this isn't intentional hostility towards forks.

Of course it is. But it isn't new. This was declared in March last year. We discussed it a lot here. It's only now that it's going into effect.

anal_reactor a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You guys are getting bugfixes?

written-beyond a day ago | parent [-]

Ofc to the root kit installed by "them", better battery life and WiFi stability.

/s

cyberax a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The security fixes will be published normally.

Groxx a day ago | parent [-]

Security fixes are hardly the only software problems Android has.

BoorishBears a day ago | parent | prev [-]

The writing was on the wall the day they shipped Doze with GPS as an OS feature.

All those years back I started calling it, since I built software for (long-lived) HMI devices that ran on Android

kotaKat a day ago | parent [-]

We were doomed when they stopped shipping a dialer or SMS app in AOSP.

“Phone by Google” is disgusting.

lossyalgo a day ago | parent [-]

And then Signal removed SMS support so we're stuck with Gogole's crap.

Zak a day ago | parent [-]

There are several SMS clients on F-Droid.

Groxx a day ago | parent [-]

Yea, SMS and phone apps are quite numerous. I don't think it's a problem, the subsystems all the apps use is open enough and not hard to build against.

Except for RCS, that's completely locked down and is pretty solidly becoming literally just Google. Fuck RCS.

okanat a day ago | parent [-]

Not just Google is the problem, the entire industry is the problem. Almost all of the cell-based standards are locked away and purely depend on the operators, major infrastructure companies like Motorola, Ericsson and Huawei and modem implementors like Qualcomm, Apple or Broadcom.

Implementing them independently is extremely difficult and even if you manage to do it you cannot have them commercially available due to radio regulation and patents. Even academic research can only be done with collaboration of those huge companies.

It is impossible to make a phone that is LTE capable completely independently (or even without nation state support). You cannot implement VoLTE or RCS without support from the carriers. They all have their own proprietary protocol on top of the standards.

Google has basically infinite money and their own patents and industry relationships and government support so they can figure out RCS. An indie company, even with infinitely motivated engineers and good funding do not have any of it.

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