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I agree only with the part about reconfiguring existing proofs. That's the value here. It is still likely very tedious to confirm what the LLMs say, but at least it's better than waiting for humans to do this half of the work. For all topics that can be expressed with language, the value of LLMs is shuffling things around to tease out a different perspective from the humans reading the output. This is the only realistic way to understand AI enough to make it practical and see it gain traction. As much as I respect Tao, I feel like his comments about AI usage can be misleading without carefully reading what he is saying in the linked posts. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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> It is still likely very tedious to confirm what the LLMs say, A large amount of Tao's work is around using AI to assist in creating Lean proofs. I'm generally on the more skeptical side of things regarding LLMs and grand visions, but assisting in the creation of Lean proofs is a huge area of opportunity for LLMs and really could change mathematics in fundamental ways. One naive belief many people have is that proofs should be "intelligible" but it's increasingly clear this is not the case. We have proofs that are gigabytes (I believe even terabytes in some cases) in size, but we know they are correct because they check in Lean. This particular pattern of using state of the art work in two different areas (LLMs and theorem proving) absolutely has the potentially to fundamentally change how mathematics is done. There's a great picture on pp 381 of Type Theory and Formal Proof where you can easily see how LLMs can be placed in two of the most tricky parts of that diagram to solve. Because the work is formally verified we can throw out entire classes of LLM problems (like hallucinations). Personally I think strongly typed language, with powerful type systems are also the long term ideal coding with LLMs (but I'm less optimistic about devs following this path). | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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