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notepad0x90 a day ago

does he not understand that countries are...countries? "quasi-judicial" is so childish of a thing to say, of all people by a CEO.

I don't even care about the details of the law, what is he aiming to achieve here by disrespecting their government as a foreigner and accusing them of "censorship". Makes wish they'd fine him just for that tweet alone. You do what a country tells you to do as a foreigner, or you leave.

These people want immigrants in their own country who obey their own laws to be treated like animals and deported to countries they've never even heard of before, yet they don't think they're obliged to follow the laws of other countries.

Isn't this guy an HN user too @eastdakota (https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=eastdakota), or am I mistaken? I'd love to hear his response to this thread, just as a fly-on-the-wall.

neysofu a day ago | parent | next [-]

> You do what a country tells you to do as a foreigner, or you leave.

I suppose you're right. You're still allowed to criticize the government's decisions though! This is certainly true in Italy, which has quite reasonable laws with regards to freedom of speech.

> what is he aiming to achieve here by disrespecting their government

Western government instituitions are hardly sacred. Again, people are allowed to criticize them, or disrespect them event if they so desire. What he's trying to achieve is a more just and reasonable application of the law, as it's quite clear if you'll care to carefully read the tweet instead of raging at his supposed disrespect for the Italian government.

notepad0x90 a day ago | parent [-]

The people in italy are allowed to do whatever they want with their own government. Even foreigners in other countries, who cares. But if you're a guest, you don't disrespect your host, certainly not about the rules they have.

Imagine if I were to complain about HN rules and how the moderators are tyrants. That's what @eastdakota is doing. It's one thing to say that when you're posting else where, but not here. he's not having to following italian laws because he's an italian, he's having to do so, so that he can be afforded the privileges of doing business there.

Moldoteck 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

part of democracy is being free to criticize. And their threat to leave italian market is fair too

notepad0x90 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Part of democracy is that the people of that country get to criticize their own government. It is anti-democratic for a wealthy and powerful individual of a foreign country to undermine a democratically instituted governmental organization. Italians get to have a voice in the governance of Italy and criticize their own government, that's democracy. We just had our democracy destroyed by another billionaire, quite frankly people like Musk are the biggest dangers to democracy right now, powerful individuals wielding unequal influence over democracies, where they use that influence to use democracy as a proxy for their oligarchy.

tick_tock_tick 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean it's quasi-judicial because it's not a court what else would you call it?

notepad0x90 18 hours ago | parent [-]

By its name. he used that to question the legitimacy of the organization. I don't know why you would defend him or they would tolerate this.