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foxglacier a day ago

His hubris isn't news. Remember when he woke up in the middle of the night and blocked some website because he personally didn't like it?

bflesch a day ago | parent [-]

No, haven't heard that story. Can you share a source?

lkbm a day ago | parent [-]

I suspect this is referring to the removal (not block) of The Daily Stormer in 2017[0].

[0] https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/

lkbm a day ago | parent [-]

Oh, there's also Kiwifarms in 2022: https://blog.cloudflare.com/kiwifarms-blocked/

lostlogin 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Was anything of value lost?

Seriously, what good has ever come out of that cess pit.

Yes, that’s a stance that is playing with fire. But is it wrong?

lkbm 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm not saying it is. I think there's a pretty broad agreement that those sites are bad, and less of them is good.

It's much less obvious that we want private corporations (or governments) picking and choosing which sites are good or bad. And from Cloudflare's position, a policy of "we don't police content" is more defensible than "we don't police content, except of this one in particular". These definitely aren't the only two horrible, racist websites Cloudflare has hosted.

IIRC (and take this memory with a grain of salt), one thing that angered eastdakota about Stormfront was that they kept saying something like "Cloudflare hasn't kicked us off, so they're okay with us" or something like that. And obviously that doesn't hold water, unless Cloudflare has chosen to kick of some sites, it lends some credence to the remaining ones.

I'm undecided where I stand on it. I'd like them to take actions like this in a principled way. (And I'm happy to accept that there's no clear line to draw, nor that it can be enforced with 100% accuracy, but if you're drawing a line, do it thoughtfully and broadcast it so you know ahead of time if you're in their gray area.)

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