| ▲ | burkaman a day ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This is the Stephen Miller caveman view of the world, but it obviously doesn't make sense if you think about it for more than five seconds. It's a very straightforward consequence of refusing to ever admit you are wrong. "If I did it, then I must have had the right to do it." It's just a refusal to accept the philosophical concept of rights. The right to vote doesn't exist because you didn't have to defeat the entire army to vote against their leader, it's just that the leader benevolently decided to let you vote against them. You don't have the right to life, it's just that everyone on the planet with a weapon has coincidentally decided not to murder you, for now. Laws don't actually exist. Any right that appeared to be established against the wishes of the men with guns (i.e. all of them) was actually fake or an inexplicable accident. You can imagine a world that works like this, but it certainly isn't our world. No historical period or even any fictional story I can think of operates like this. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | pixl97 a day ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> The right to vote doesn't exist because you didn't have to defeat the entire army to vote against their leader, I would say you're wrong. The right to vote does exist because men rose up together and fought leaders that wouldn't let them vote. And, when leaders rise up that take our right to vote and we don't stop them they will prevail. > it's just that everyone on the planet with a weapon has coincidentally decided not to murder you, for now. Correct. Start up a big disaster where food goes away for some reason and it comes back. We have a stable world where we don't kill each other at the moment because in general we all have food, water, shelter, and I would say enough entertainment that fighting each other isn't worth the risk. There is no rule that says this will last forever. Quite often in history there have been stable times, that then fell apart because of greed and malice of leaders. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | sumedh 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> but it obviously doesn't make sense if you think about it for more than five seconds. Maduro would disagree. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | michaelt a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> it obviously doesn't make sense if you think about it for more than five seconds. [...] It's just a refusal to accept the philosophical concept of rights. Or it's an attempt to reconcile the philosophical concept of rights with global politics and observed reality. Does an Afghan girl have a right to education? A Uyghur Muslim a right to freedom of religion? A Palestinian a right to food? A Hong Kong resident a right to freedom of expression? It would appear that in these cases, the politicians commanding the loyalty of the men with guns do what they can, while the weak suffer what they must. Of course, that's not the only reasonable line of thinking. Just because people in distant lands don't have certain rights in practice, I have those rights because I live in a great country with strong institutions and the rule of law. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | DangitBobby a day ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Refusing to accept the philosophical concept of rights is just correct. You are born with fuck all unless people have decided you are entitled to something by existing. Plenty of people were born without anything remotely resembling rights. If rights were inherent and not simple enforced by people, that wouldn't be the case, would it? Life isn't a fairy tail. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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