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Barbing a day ago

Recalling Venmo winding down web beginning in… let’s see… 2018!

https://www.digitaltrends.com/phones/venmo-shutters-web-plat...

drnick1 a day ago | parent [-]

Why do people need these crappy fintech apps at all? Can you not give your friends cash or send a wire?

silisili a day ago | parent | next [-]

In the US, in my experience, young people don't want to deal with cash at all. Older people do, but it's not always convenient to meet up.

Most banks charge a fee for sending a wire. Sending an ACH is free, but most restrict that to your own account. Revolut is the only one I've seen that lets you just spam ACH to anyone. In both cases, it isn't instant.

Zelle largely fixes those issues, but has its own issues, like a lot of banks not supporting it and/or arbitrarily low send limits.

pluralmonad a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't understand either. My contact surface with my bank is so small. I log in once a month to download transactions. What is everyone doing that they need constant immediate access on their phones? I'd probably debank before buying a special iPhone to access a bank account.

Macha a day ago | parent [-]

Let me give you a preview of a world coming to you, and present day reality in Ireland:

1. Your employer pays your salary by bank transfer, which requires you to have a conventional bank account.

2. You then want to spend that money, how do you do that?

Debit card? You need the phone app to retrieve the PIN when the bank first sends you the card.

Cash withdrawals in the branch? For amounts less than €10,000, the staff will direct you to the ATMs in the branch. These require an activated debit card to withdraw money, and activating that card requires the phone app.

Manual money transfers in the branch? Once again, for amounts less than €10,000, the staff won't do it - they'll instead direct you to the PCs in the branch. These are just loading the same website you can access on yours, which will ask you to the confirm with a 2FA push notification to log in.

Try another bank? The legacy banks all got the same auditor who advised them that app based 2FA is the easiest way to implement PSD2, and reduce the likelihood they get held liable when customers get scammed, so they all implemented that as the only option. The neobanks of course, are accessed solely by apps.