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bflesch a day ago

I think it is a big strategic mistake for him to personally take ownership of this topic and to elevate it on a political level. He openly aligned himself with two people who are extremely unpopular in Europe, while threatening an important EU member state.

I think his hubris makes him overestimate Cloudflare's importance for Europe. Cloudflare is simply not important enough. If it was Microsoft or Apple threatening, then maybe - but those companies are clever enough to leverage lobbying for this.

Now the Cloudflare CEO has set himself up to be at the whims of JD Vance/Trump, while providing a perfect "arrogant US tech company" scapegoat that can be slaugthered by European politics and the media conglomerate that he is threatening.

Europe is too important for USA. I don't think the US administration will like the relationship to go sour at this very point in time just because of this Cloudflare doofus barking around.

Anyways, it is like Facebook CEO and Amazon CEO applauding the Trump inauguration; it is a totally unnecessary political statement which fragments their userbase and introduces a political dimension to any procurement decision involving Cloudflare. It takes people's illusion that Cloudflare is a neutral tech company and replaces it with this guy's twitter ramblings, who is obviously an Elon Musk and JD Vance fanboy.

grayhatter a day ago | parent | next [-]

> it is a totally unnecessary political statement which fragments their userbase and introduces a political dimension to any procurement decision involving Cloudflare.

My take was, If you need help from the current State Department, or the current administration, (and I assume they do) it absolutely is a necessary statement. And then, this is them trying very hard to suck up, as is required, without pissing off everyone.

Perhaps I'm wrong, and this is actually a form of honesty, instead of performative theater. In which case I would probably agree with you. It's unfortunate. But I default to the assumption that people aren't children by choice.

NewJazz a day ago | parent [-]

Then why bring up Musk, who is perhaps more reviled than even Vance?

tacker2000 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I agree, he seems to be ranting and escalating unnecessarily.

jules a day ago | parent [-]

The are fining his company 213% of yearly Italian revenue. He is not the one escalating.

oaiey a day ago | parent [-]

He took a risk in ignoring a law instead of exiting the market. They did not escalate, they applied the law.

What we need is an international legal framework for the Internet. And that includes compromises on all sides. China, EU, Russia, US and others have very different understanding on what is right. But hey, I think US politics is America first and cancel all international treaties. Sounds like more problems like this are incoming.

jkman 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure, next we should implement global communism and live in peace and harmony forever! That is most definitely feasible

throw0101d a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Europe is too important for USA. I don't think the US administration will like the relationship to go sour at this very point in time just because of this Cloudflare doofus barking around.

When you say "for USA", what do you mean by "USA"?

Are you talking about the general US population? US corporations? Or the person who decides foreign policy direction (i.e., Trump)?

Because Trump recently ordered the snatching of a foreign head of state because he didn't like how the guy danced and allegedly didn't take him seriously.

bflesch a day ago | parent [-]

I was trying to say that even though the US administration is actively escalating with Europe, I don't think the point in time has been reached where they want to go full berserk and cut Europe off from services by US tech companies. Cloudflare CEO tries to trigger such an escalation right now, but I'm not sure the US administration wants this kind of escalation right now, because it would also accelerate migration away from Microsoft and other US tech companies, hurting their revenue. For FAANG $7M is peanuts, and they won't leave billions on the table just because Cloudflare CEO has a big ego.

user34283 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Musk and JD Vance are not "extremely unpopular in the EU", they are primarily unpopular with progressives, regardless of the location.

It sounds like you're just upset the Cloudflare CEO sides with conservatives on this particular issue.

sidibe a day ago | parent [-]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but they are, in fact, extremely unpopular in EU

user34283 a day ago | parent [-]

You believe Musk is unpopular with conservatives in the EU?

sidibe a day ago | parent [-]

Overall he is very unpopular. There are a few far right parties that love him but they are outnumbered.