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superkuh a day ago

Smart phones are not personal computers. They're shopping/government/etc terminals. You don't and never have controlled them, even with root (re: tight integration of the baseband computer which only the telco has a license for, not you). Their best use re: computing is acting as wifi hotspot for their cell telco CNAT connection. The time to stop using them as computers is now, not when your local government passes these laws. Apple is already forcing it and Google has shown it's cards even if walked it back temporarily.

Magnusmaster a day ago | parent | next [-]

You don't own your PC either. All modern PCs have a Trusted Platform Module that the authorities can and will use to lock down PCs eventually. Multiplayer games are already using hardware attestation on PC for anti-cheat.

memoriuaysj a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

you are right, but you are misplacing the blame. it's not that you dont own your phone, it's that you dont own your bank account and the bank can dictate how you access it

superkuh a day ago | parent [-]

I see your point and it's valid in this context. But both ends of non-ownership contribute. One doesn't own the smartphone and one doesn't own the bank account.

The National Credit Union Federation of Korea (NACUFOK) represents over 800 member-owned unions (https://www.cu.co.kr/english/main.do), and then there is the even larger Saemaul Geumgo (MG) network which operates as community credit cooperatives with millions of members. These people ostensibly own their "bank" accounts.

negus a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Sounds dystopian. I hope projects like OsmocomBB and Purism Librem will shape the future