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Suppafly 3 days ago

I didn't watch the video, but assuming they used a mass spectrometer, the end result will be identical to the real thing, anyone tasting otherwise is deluding themselves.

Arch-TK 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The video explains how the gas based mass spectrometers he had (indirect) access to don't normally pick up nonvolatile compounds like tannins. It was a big breakthrough that since he didn't have cocoa leaf extract, and he basically nailed everything else, he couldn't really understand what he was missing until he realised the extract would likely contain tannins.

So there may be other nonvolatile compounds which nevertheless impact the flavour profile. While a lot of flavour is in your nose, not all of it is...

ginko 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe he could have paired it with an hplc reading.

piskov 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is wrong.

Same with perfume knock-offs

Spectrometer doesn’t tell you quantities, mixes, what have you.

You can emulate 90% of the first smell but never in life you can replicate entire bouquet, aftersmell, propriety molecules, etc.

epolanski 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

Spectrography can absolutely tell you concentrations if you compare it to a test solution with a known concentration.

ipsum2 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He doesn't compare the mass spec of his final product to a real coke, unless I missed it.

kadoban 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You did miss it. It's quite close, but not identical. Wouldn't be surprised if different batches of coke have at least some variance anyway.

moron4hire 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You missed it

jrochkind1 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Taste buds can detect chemicals in as concentrations as low as a few parts per million, I dunno.

hinkley 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Someone once said the reason we had alcohol before civilization is that we carry around a chemical testing laboratory in our faces.

It just so happens that everything in beer that can go wrong and hurt you (any sooner than cancer) creates a distinct aftertaste and you can learn to avoid it rather easily.

The only exception of course is if you use poisonous ingredients in the first place.

tomcam 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Mass spec is indeed demonstrated multiple times