There are different types of contrary claims though, which may be an issue here.

One example: "agents are not doing well with code in languages/frameworks which have many recent large and incompatible changes like SwiftUI" - me: that's a valid issue that can be slightly controlled for with project setup, but still largely unsolved, we could discuss the details.

Another example: "coding agents can't think and just hallucinate code" - me: lol, my shipped production code doesn't care, bring some real examples of how you use agents if they don't work for you.

There's a lot of the second type on HN.

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alfalfasprout a day ago | parent [-]

Yeah but there's also a lot of "lol, my shipped production code doesn't care" type comments with zero info about the type of code you're talking about, the scale, and longer term effects on quality, maintainability, and lack of expertise that using agentic tools can have.

That's also far from helpful or particularly meaningful.

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viraptor a day ago | parent | next [-]

There's a lot of "here's how agents work for me" content out there already. From popular examples from simonw and longer videos from Theo, to thousands of posts and comments from random engineers. There's really not much that's worth adding anymore. (Unless you discover something actually new) It works for use cases which many have already described.

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shimman a day ago | parent [-]

Using two randos that are basically social media personalities as SMEs is just a damning statement about the current trends of programming.

	▲	viraptor a day ago \| parent [-]
		The area is still relatively fresh. Those two media personalities do actual work though and provide a summary for today's state. You can wait for an academic research on what happened 6 months ago or a consulting industry keynote/advertisement about what they implemented a year ago... but I'm not sure you'll be better informed.

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rectang a day ago | parent | prev [-]

… and trollish to boot. Y U gotta “lol”?

But since there’s grey in my beard, I’ve seen it several times: in every technological move forward there are obnoxious hype merchants, reactionary status quo defenders, and then the rest of us doing our best to muddle through,

	▲	viraptor 19 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Y U gotta “lol”? Because some opinions are lazy. You can get all the summaries you want by searching "how I use agentic coding / Claude code" on the web or similar queries on YouTube, explaining in lots of details what's good and bad. If someone says "it's just hallucinations", it means they aren't actually interested and just want to complain.