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labanimalster a day ago

The discussion about Starlink is interesting, but with only ~0.1% of the population having access, the real story is the 99.9% who are cut off right now. The asymmetry between those who can broadcast to the world and those who can't is staggering — and even among that 0.1%, many are too afraid to broadcast anything, knowing the risks.

bombcar a day ago | parent [-]

The key is that the 99% can transfer data and such internally to the country; the 0.1% can then leak it out.

esafak a day ago | parent | next [-]

How effectively can they share data domestically during blackouts?

octoberfranklin a day ago | parent [-]

Carrier pigeons.

And hamsters.

Don't underestimate the hamsters.

esafak a day ago | parent [-]

Especially ones in a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.

But seriously?

bombcar a day ago | parent [-]

There are mesh networks, but even so IPv4 isn't down, and people can share files p2p.

adamfisk a day ago | parent [-]

Theoretically this is true, but in practice it's not. Most p2p services rely on the global internet in some way. The BitTorrent DHT, for example, is unlikely so self-heal in the event of a completely inaccessible global internet.

Things like HolePunch have a lot of potential here, but you'd need an Iran-only DHT, and it's just not deployed at scale.

jszymborski a day ago | parent | prev [-]

but, regrettably, at a trickle