| ▲ | logicchains a day ago | |||||||
>Apparently the fight is not about freedom but about (perceived) whiteness vs non-whiteness But the Iranians are white. The name Iran is literally derived from "Aryan". | ||||||||
| ▲ | Aloisius a day ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
I believe that was the point they were making. While I don't think they're right that Iran is ignored because Iranian protesters and the Iranian government are both perceived as white by Americans (or both non-white, depending on the person), it's undeniable that they use the perceived non-whiteness of Palestinians and perceived whiteness of Israelis as rhetorical ammunition. This rhetorical device is a rather effective as Americans have a tendency to view everything through their own lens of "race"/color so casting the conflict as white people oppressing non-white people because they are non-white is a powerful argument that is easily understood by Americans. That said, personally, I think Iran is ignored more because Palestine is sucking all the air out of the room than anything else, especially with all the graphic videos/photos. Sudan on the other hand... there's really no excuse for ignoring that. | ||||||||
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| ▲ | graemep a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
Aryan does not equal white. Definitions of race are very culturally dependent. A few decades ago South Asians were regarded as caucasian (I have an American encyclopedia published in the 1950s that says so), a century earlier so were some East Africans (Somalis IIRC). The current western definition of white does not include them. Similarly the current American definition of black includes people most of the rest of the world would not consider black - we sometimes have to be told that some people identify as "black" (what Americans call passing as white). | ||||||||
| ▲ | ithkuil a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
Yeah of course none of this makes sense. And yet it all has real world consequences. It's all incredibly partisan. If one just manages to take a step back and watch this dynamic from outside it all seems so weird: the islamist Iran backs Hamas, Hamas are Palestinians, Palestinians are victimized by Jews, Jews have money, capitalists have money, america is capitalist, america is imperialist, ergo .... Islamist Iran is against capitalist imperialism. The protests are against islamist Iran ergo they are against the fight against capitalist imperialism and thus they don't deserve solidarity, or something like this. I would really love to hear from somebody who is not supporting the Iran protests to honestly tell me if I misrepresented their position and in which way | ||||||||
| ▲ | helloaltalt a day ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
Iran comes from the word rougly translating to the word noble, and noble in sanskrit translates to the word Arya Aryans aren't necessarily white or black especially in the sanskrit context of things. | ||||||||