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amir734jj a day ago

I'm an Iranian and this protest is very different because it's not about a specific government policy ... It's about the totality of the regime. Unfortunately, government has been following the same old brutal playbook by killing protesters and cutting off the Internet.

cramsession a day ago | parent | next [-]

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KaiserPro a day ago | parent | next [-]

Thats such bollocks. you can't just order up a whole country protest, prolonged protest when you want.

The average person in the street isn't going to protest, risk death and torture because some bloke with a dodgy accent tells them to

cramsession a day ago | parent [-]

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KaiserPro a day ago | parent [-]

ok but like what's your sources? "trust me bro?"

Do you have family there?

cramsession a day ago | parent [-]

It’s actually on the people claiming there are “massive” protests to prove that’s true.

KaiserPro 19 hours ago | parent [-]

no its on both of you.

I made the fairly reasonable assertion that people don't come out on to the streets when there is a non-trivial chance of being shot, simply because someone told them to. (see protests in any other oppressive country)

Now, where is my source for that? well put it this way, I don't go out to protest that much and I'm in a non-oppressive country. the bar for protest where I might be shot or sent to a hole is waaaay higher.

Now to your point: "there are no protests, just a couple of isreali agitators"

The videos that I have seen show >thousand people on the streets, bearing down on police, or running away from the police. Different places, different times, but all in the last two weeks.

Now, that _could_ be selective publication, but I didn't see most of these videos through the press.

irusensei a day ago | parent | prev [-]

>American: no you are wrong... let me educate you about your own struggle.

cramsession a day ago | parent [-]

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AnimalMuppet a day ago | parent [-]

He's living in Milwaukee (per his HN about page). That doesn't make his claim to be Iranian false.

FilosofumRex a day ago | parent | prev [-]

that would make it much more suspicious the protests are being orchestrated from outside by CIA/Mossad...

The "regime" is a republic with regularly held presidential (8 presidents in 45 years) and parliamentary elections. What would you like to replace it with? Monarchy

perching_aix a day ago | parent | next [-]

> The "regime" is a republic with regularly held presidential (8 presidents in 45 years) and parliamentary elections.

I'd think the regime thing refers to the Supreme Leader of 36 years and his Guardian Council, no?

FilosofumRex 11 hours ago | parent [-]

so are kings of England, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Spain, Netherlands & Arabia.

The Guardian Council is an elected body with the power to remove the so-called "Supreme Leader", so his power is limited too and is not hereditary, unlike monarchies of Europe and Asia

perching_aix 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> so are kings of England, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Spain, Netherlands & Arabia

The first six of which to my understanding are token roles, sometimes de jure, but definitely de facto. This is unlike the role of the Iranian Supreme Leader, who according to my findings is heavily involved and has the license to do so.

I don't know what country Arabia is supposed to be.

> The Guardian Council is an elected body with the power to remove the so-called "Supreme Leader", so his power is limited too

You know that I considered and checked for all of this ahead of time, right? These loopholes are very on the nose.

The Supreme Leader directly elects 6 of the Guardian Council members, but also the judiciary chief, who elects the other 6.

The Supreme Leader is elected and kept in position by the people-elected Assembly of Experts, the applications for which are... filtered through by the Guardian Council. And considering they have never exercised their authority to as much as condemn but especially to remove a Supreme Leader according to my search, it's a reasonable conclusion that either everything is magically harmonious over there, or this authority in practice is a token one too.

I have also looked into whether these bodies are partial, and not only is this true covertly, it is true openly. Candidates that don't fit the bill on any of these levels are proudly filtered out in droves.

I'm really quite unconvinced you're here to inform with honesty in mind.

amir734jj 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But the supreme leader elects the Guardian Council, and their memeber elect Assembly of Experts that elect the supreme leader :)

We have ChatGPT. We are not dumb. Stop the propaganda.

FilosofumRex 8 hours ago | parent [-]

> But the supreme leader elects the Guardian Council No he doesn't... Half of are recommended by judiciary to be approved by Parliament, the other half are appointed by the supreme leader for six year term. This ensures all three branches of government have equal stakes. It's not unlike the House of Lords in England, half of whose members are appointed by the king or are hereditary.

The Assembly of Experts members are elected directly by the people every 8 years, and it operates independently of the Guardian Council once it's seated.

Who elects your king? Trump or Satanyahu

perching_aix 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> The Assembly of Experts members are elected directly by the people every 8 years,

But who gets on the ballot is controlled by the Guardian Council. So it's like how you could get the first car Ford produced in any color, as long as that color was the color black.

Surely this is not new info to you?

> Who elects your king? Trump or Satanyahu

If you think this is a boxing or football match of some sort, please consult the forum guidelines. We're not here to beat each other (or you) down.

amir734jj 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's a circular logic. He elects people who elect him.

Again. I don't want a king. I want people not to die when they go protest. AM I ASKING TOO MUCH??

It seems like you are great at repeating propaganda points and don't actually live in Iran because otherwise you wouldn't have internet.

amir734jj a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I would like people not to get killed when they protest

I would like the internet not to get shut down during the protest

Am I asking too much?

cramsession a day ago | parent | next [-]

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FilosofumRex a day ago | parent | prev [-]

No, it's just exactly what CIA/Mossad are asking for, too - you're in good company

amir734jj a day ago | parent [-]

You think I am CIA/Mossad for asking people not to get killed when they protest? I expected HN community to be better. Shame.

thomassmith65 a day ago | parent [-]

Can you blame us? We just want to protect you Persians from a constitutional monarchy /s