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switchbak 2 days ago

Sure, a US invasion of Iran would undoubtedly lead to good things. And how can you say the Kurds are friends of the USA (I'm presuming you mean friends of the USA) given how many times they've been abandoned?

Just take a look at what happened to Libya, sometimes removing a "bad person" will cause a far worse situation to evolve. Like literal human slavery.

I will never cease to be amazed at the amnesia that arises when folks in power decide now is a good time to sell a war to the people.

anakaine 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

In Iran they have had several police forces join the protestors at this point. Hopefully its a theme that continues and includes the military.

It only takes about 30% of the population supporting the regime plus military intervention to hold onto power. For some time now it seems that they've been below the 30% mark.

cramsession 2 days ago | parent [-]

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StriverGuy 2 days ago | parent [-]

How is that working out?

cramsession 2 days ago | parent [-]

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andrepd 2 days ago | parent [-]

Israel is a terrorist regime that commits genocide against Palestinians. What use is it if the ones fighting it are terrorists as well? In your hypothetical world where Iran is the strongest regional power, what does that accomplish? The Palestinians trade Israeli and Hamas's oppression for being a protectorate of the Islamic Republic of Iran? I never really understood this line of thinking.

cramsession 2 days ago | parent [-]

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themafia 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> a US invasion of Iran would undoubtedly lead to good things.

I think their neighbor would disagree.

> sell a war to the people.

If you have to sell the war, then you have no business conducting it.

ryan_n 2 days ago | parent [-]

Not sure if you read the full parent comment, but they are agreeing with you in case you didn't realize.

kelvinjps10 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You also forget how panama Germany, Japan, South Korea are better now after removing their authoritarian regimes.

oblio 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

You're conveniently leaving out the other 80% of cases, which were failures.

blumenkraft a day ago | parent [-]

A failure can simply try again (and again, and again...)

lukan 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Unfortunately, that was 75+ years ago and all the more recent examples were disasters as of my knowledge.

kelvinjps10 2 days ago | parent [-]

Panama was on 1989 and Venezuela situation it's closer to that, than the middle East countries, We are united in this, more than 80% are against the current government and we even voted him out. There is not religious divide as it happens in those countries, even by ethnicity most people are just mixed.

DrProtic 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Even as we speak Kurds are getting attacked near Aleppo by US-backed ex-Al-Qaeda president of Syria.

cestith 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sadly for the Kurds I’d say they are still pretty good friends to the US, as poorly as it’s been reciprocated.

As for the rest of what you said, no notes.

keybored 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

All correct. But something needs to be frontloaded.

1. Even if removing <bad government> would be good for that country, that doesn’t give some other state the right to do it. We let these entities get away with murder because they are our friends and they have the biggest guns, that’s it.

2. Always interrogate the real reasons why a state is doing it.

Now only after that we get to the facts like all those times it ended horribly for the people that <state> was supposed to help.

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