This is disingenuous because LLMs were already writing full, simple applications in 2023.[0]

They're definitely better now, but it's not like ChatGPT 3.5 couldn't write a full simple todo list app in 2023. There were a billion blog posts talking about that and how it meant the death of the software industry.

Plus I'd actually argue more of the improvements have come from tooling around the models rather than what's in the models themselves.

[0] eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GizsSo-EevA

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blitz_skull 2 days ago | parent [-]

What LLM were you using to build full applications in 2023? That certainly wasn’t my experience.

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mjr00 2 days ago | parent [-]

Just from googling, here's a video "Use ChatGPT to Code a Full Stack App" from May 18, 2023.[0]

There's a lot of non-ergonomic copy and pasting but it's definitely using an LLM to build a full application.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GizsSo-EevA

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blitz_skull 2 days ago | parent [-]

That's not at all what's being discussed in this article. We copy-pasted from SO before this. This article is talking about 99% fully autonomous coding with agents, not copy-pasting 400 times from a chat bot.

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mjr00 2 days ago | parent [-]

Hi, please re-read the parent comment again, which was claiming

> Starting back in 2022/2023:

> - (~2022) It can auto-complete one line, but it can't write a full function.

> - (~2023) Ok, it can write a full function, but it can't write a full feature.

This was a direct refutation, with evidence, that in 2023 people were not claiming that LLMs "can't write a full feature", because, as demonstrated, people were already building full applications with it at the time.

This obviously is not talking exclusively about agents, because agents did not exist in 2022.

	▲	redhale a day ago \| parent [-]
		I get your point, but I'll just say that I did not intend my comment to be interpreted so literally. Also, just because SOMEONE planted a flag in 2023 saying that an LLM could build an app certainly does NOT mean that "people were not claiming that LLMs "can't write a full feature"". People in this very thread are still claiming LLMs can't write features. Opinions vary.