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turtlesdown11 2 days ago

Yes. Believe it or not, most people are not all star human beings in all facets of their lives. We can certainly still learn from them, instead of casually dismissing them when we find an instance that they don't live up to our pedestal.

jacquesm 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I think this goes beyond 'an instance'.

palmotea 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Yes. Believe it or not, most people are not all star human beings in all facets of their lives.

The above is not just normal faults of the magnitude we all have, instead they're pretty strong indications that jobs was a terrible person. He was probably a narcissist.

> We can certainly still learn from them, instead of casually dismissing them when we find an instance that they don't live up to our pedestal.

There are different kinds of "learning from people," I'd recommend not "learning from" Jobs like he's a guru to be admired, but that's what a lot of people do.

We should admire and learn from good people, and the lesson to learn from Jobs is terrible people can be successful, and not to confuse success for goodness.