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troupo 2 days ago

Note how nothing in your comment addresses anything I said. Except the last sentence that basically confirms what I said. This perfectly illustrates the discourse around AI.

As for the snide and patronizing "it's in your interest to stay relevant":

1. I use these tools daily. That's why I don't subscribe to willful wide-eyed gullibility. I know exactly what these tools can and cannot do.

The vast majority of "AI skeptics" are the same.

2. In a few years when the world is awash in barely working incomprehensible AI slop my skills will be in great demand. Not because I'm an amazing developer (I'm not), but because I have experience separating wheat from the chaff

CuriouslyC 2 days ago | parent [-]

The snide and patronizing is your projection. It kinda makes me sad when the discourse is so poisoned that I can't even encourage someone to protect their own future from something that's obviously coming (technical merits aside, purely based on social dynamics).

It seems the subject of AI is emotionally charged for you, so I expect friendly/rational discourse is going to be a challenge. I'd say something nice but since you're primed to see me being patronizing... Fuck you? That what you were expecting?

troupo 2 days ago | parent [-]

> The snide and patronizing is your projection.

It's not me who decided to barge in, assume their opponent doesn't use something or doesn't want to use something, and offer unsolicited advice.

> It kinda makes me sad when the discourse is so poisoned that I can't even encourage someone to protect their own future from something that's obviously coming

See. Again. You're so in love with your "wisdom" that you can't even see what you sound like: snide, patronising, condenscending. And completely missing the whole point of what was written. You are literally the person who poisons the discourse.

Me: "here are the issues I still experience with what people claim are 'next tier frontier model'"

You: "it's in your interests to figure out how to leverage new tools to stay relevant in the future"

Me: ... what the hell are you talking about? I'm using these tools daily. Do you have anything constructive to add to the discourse?

> so I expect friendly/rational discourse is going to be a challenge.

It's only challenge to you because you keep being in love with your voice and your voice only. Do you have anything to contribute to the actual rational discourse, are you going to attack my character?

> 'd say something nice but since you're primed to see me being patronizing... Fuck you? T

Ah. The famous friendly/rational discourse of "they attack my use of AI" (no one attacked you), "why don't you invest in learning tools to stay relevant in the future" (I literally use these tools daily, do you have anything useful to say?) and "fuck you" (well, same to you).

> That what you were expecting?

What I was expecting is responses to what I wrote, not you riding in on a high horse.

CuriouslyC 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

You were the one complaining about how the tools aren't giving you the results you expected. If you're using these tools daily and having a hard time, either you're working on something very different from the bulk of people using the tools and your problems or legitimate, or you aren't and it's a skill issue.

If you want to take politeness as being patronizing, I'm happy to stop bothering. My guess is you're not a special snowflake, and you need to "get good" or you're going to end up on unemployment complaining about how unfair life is. I'd have sympathy but you don't seem like a pleasant human being to interact with, so have fun!

troupo 2 days ago | parent [-]

> ou were the one complaining about how the tools aren't giving you the results you expected.

They are not giving me the results people claim they give. It is distinctly different from not giving the results I want.

> If you're using these tools daily and having a hard time, either you're working on something very different from the bulk of people using the tools and your problems or legitimate, or you aren't and it's a skill issue.

Indeed. And your rational/friendly discourse that you claim you're having would start with trying to figure that out. Did you? No, you didn't. You immediately assumed your opponent is a clueless idiot who is somehow against AI and is incapable or learning or something.

> If you want to take politeness as being patronizing, I'm happy to stop bothering.

No. It's not politeness. It's smugness. You literally started your interaction in this thread with a "git gud or else" and even managed to complain later that "you dislike it when they attack your use of AI as a skill issue". While continuously attacking others.

> you don't seem like a pleasant human being to interact with

Says the person who has contributed nothing to the conversation except his arrogance, smugness, holier-than-thou attitude, engaged in nothing but personal attacks, complained about non-existent grievances and when called out on this behavior completed his "friendly and rational discourse" with a "fuck you".

Well, fuck you, too.

Adieu.

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