Reminds me of this discussion between Alan Kay and Rich Hickey on this site 9 years ago. Rich Hickey always asserted that code is data (which aligns with the LISP view of the world), Alan Kay thinks that’s a bad idea.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11941656

Clojure is pretty similar to EDN which stands for extensible data notation.

cf. https://clojure.org/reference/reader