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lawlessone 2 days ago

i know, there an inexhaustible amount of human written books to read before i'd be desperate enough to read the Markov chain books.

aoeusnth1 2 days ago | parent [-]

I’d start by reading the comments you are replying to.

lawlessone a day ago | parent [-]

d'oh

soulofmischief a day ago | parent [-]

It happens :)

On that note though, the other day I asked Opus to write a short story for me based on a prompt, and to typeset it and export it to multiple formats.

The short story overall was pretty so-so, but it had a couple of excellently poignant quotes within. I was more impressed that I was reading a decently typeset PDF. The agent was able to complete a complicated request end-to-end. This already has immense value.

Overall, the story was interesting enough that I read until the end. If I had a young child who had shown this to me for a school project, I would be extremely impressed with them.

I don't know how long we have before AI novels become as interesting/meaningful as human-written novels, but the day might be coming where you might not know the difference in a blind test.

lawlessone a day ago | parent [-]

i am in the process of finishing up a role doing annotations for these, for a company i cannot name (basically clicking lots of box hundreds of times a day)

So the endless hosepipe of repetitive , occasionally messed up, requests has probably not helped me endear myself to them.

Anecdotally having chatgpt do some of my CV was ok but i had to go through it and remove some exaggerations. The one thing i think these bots are good at is talking things up..

soulofmischief a day ago | parent [-]

Yes, as it stands now, all frontier models are still downright corny. But a lot of elements of good storytelling are there: the story Opus generated used symmetry and circular storytelling, created tension and release, used metaphor appropriately and effectively... all of those things are there. But the actual execution was just corny.

But you should read the stuff I wrote when I was young. Downright terrible on all accounts. I think better training will eventually squeeze out the corniness and in our lifetimes, a language model will produce a piece that is fundamentally on par with a celebrated author.

Obviously, this means that patrons must engage in internal and external dialogue about the purpose of consuming art, and whether the purpose is connecting with other humans, or more generally, other forms of intelligence. I think it's great that we're having these conversations with others and ourselves, because ultimately it just leads to more meaningful art. We will see artist movements on both sides of the generative camps produce thought-provoking pieces which tackle the very concept of art itself.

In my case, when I see a piece of generative art or literature which impresses me, my internal experience is that I feel I am witnessing something produced by the collective experience of the human race. Language models only exist because of thousands of years of human effort to reach this point and produce the necessary quality and quantity of works required to train these models.

I also have been working with generative algorithms since grade school so I have a certain appreciation for the generative process itself, and the mathematical ideas behind modern generative models. This enhances my appreciation of the output.

Obviously, I get different feelings when encountering AI slop where in places where I used to encounter people. It's not all good. But it's not all bad, either, and we have to come to terms with the near future.