| ▲ | mikestorrent 3 days ago | |
> How is it useful to you that these companies are so valuation hungry that they are moving money into this technology in such a way that people are fearful it could cripple the entire global economy? The creation of entire new classes of profession has always been the result of technological breakthroughs. The automobile did not cripple the economy, even as it ended the buggy-whip barons. > How is it useful to you that this tech is so power hungry that environmental externalities are being further accelerated while regular people's utility costs are raising to cover the increased demand(whether they use the tech to "code" or "manifest art")? There will be advantages to lower-power computing, and lower-cost electricity. Implement carbon taxes and AI companies will follow the market incentive to install their datacentres in places where sustainable power is available for cheap. We'll see China soaring to new heights with their massive solar investment, and America will eventually figure out they have to catch up and cannot do so with coal and gas. > How is it useful to you that this tech is so compute hungry that they are seemingly ending the industry of personal compute to feed this tech's demand? Temporary problem, the demand for personal computing is not going to die in five years, and meanwhile the lucrative markets for producing this equipment will result in many new factories, increasing capacity and eventually lowering prices again. In the meantime, many pundits are suggesting that this may thankfully begin the end of the Electron App Era where a fuckin' chat client thinks it deserves 1GB of RAM. Consider this: why are we using Electron and needing 32GB of RAM on a desktop? Because web developers only knew how to use Javascript and couldn't write a proper desktop app. With AI, desktop frameworks can have a resurgence; why shouldn't I use Go or Rust and write a native app on all platforms now that the cost of doing so is decreasing and the number of people empowered to work with it is increasing? I wrote a nice multithreaded fractal renderer in Rust the other day; I don't know how to multithread, write Rust, and probably can't iterate complex numbers correctly on paper anymore.... > How is it useful to you that this tech is so water hungry that it is emptying drinking water acquifers? This is only a problem in places that have poor water policy, e.g. California (who can all thank the gods that their reservoirs are all now very full from the recent rain). This problem predates datacenters and needs to be solved - for instance, by federalizing and closing down the so-called Wonderful Company and anyone else who uses underhanded tactics to buy up water rights to grow crops that shouldn't be grown there. Come and run your datacenters up in the cold North, you won't even need evaporative cooling for them, just blow a ton of fresh air in.... > How is it useful to you that this tech is being used to manufacture consent? Now you've actually got an argument, and I am on your side on this one. | ||
| ▲ | biammer 3 days ago | parent [-] | |
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