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15155 2 days ago

A popular technique is to conflate illegal immigrants with legal ones for the benefit of argument.

Removals of those with legal status should be corrected! I can simultaneously agree with you on this point and believe that all illegal immigrants should be removed! - this is actually the most fair and just solution to those who bothered to wait in line and follow the proper procedures!

bakies 2 days ago | parent [-]

> A popular technique is to conflate illegal immigrants with legal ones for the benefit of argument.

Yes, I'm not. The Administration is.

Removing people is cruel. I doubt most deserve it, in fact I know most don't. Deport the actual criminals, sure. That's not what is happening today.

Ideally there is no "line." Proper procedures should be easy. If people are crossing the rivers and crawling through razor wire to get here then the policies make it too hard to enter the country. There's also a good excuse of being afraid of authority. So if they did cross the border improperly (not a criminal offense, btw), I would still like to hear them out and get them documented. Fine them, like the law says.

15155 2 days ago | parent [-]

> If people are crossing the rivers and crawling through razor wire to get here then the policies make it too hard to enter the country

This is an opinion.

> not a criminal offense, btw

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325

You were saying?

> Fine them

The law also says "jail them" - let's just deport them and save the cash.

bakies 2 days ago | parent [-]

> Civil Penalty

Traffic ticket makes you a criminal? Deport you for speeding?

> The law also says "jail them" - let's just deport them

How about we follow the law. You're the one that cared so much about lawbreakers. Stop being cruel.

15155 2 days ago | parent [-]

> Traffic ticket

Maybe read or ask an LLM to summarize part (a) for you? Civil penalties are in addition to the criminal ones - reading can be tough, I know.

bakies a day ago | parent [-]

why dont we just kill them instead of deporting them it's cheaper? since we dont care about laws