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mlrtime 3 days ago

Unfortunately ICE has somewhat broad powers that allow them to enforce Federal laws that local LEOs cannot get away with.

This should be challenged in a court.

hwguy45 2 days ago | parent [-]

Some say unfortunate, others say fortunate. It's a luxury belief to want to let people walk across the border and have no repercussions. Enforce the border, get all the illegals out.

goatlover 2 days ago | parent [-]

Everyone in this country regardless of their status is still guaranteed due process by the Constitution. The Venezuelans and Abrego Garcia sent to CECOT was done without due process and in violation of a Federal Judge's orders. Not to mention CECOT is a horrible prison.

I think it's cruel and inhuman to deport people already here unless they're engaged in criminal activities. Most of them are hard working people who gave up everything to flee bad circumstances in their home countries. We're a nation of immigrants.

You want the border secure, fine (I would prefer immigration reform since we have a large country and tons of economic opportunity migrants fulfill). But don't be so cruel as to support what ICE is doing to hard working people who have established lives here. Most of them are not criminals.

hwguy45 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is suicidal empathy. Mercy for the guilty is cruelty for the innocent.

It means no jobs for American young people. It means loss of culture and shared spaces. It means your kids having a worse educational experience because his classmates don't speak the same language. It means terrorists and spies can sneak across the border. It's weakness and we need to stop rationalizing it.

Would you want these people as your neighbor? Not speaking English? 6 kids? Loud Mexican music? How about your whole neighborhood until you're the last one left?

mlrtime a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Unfortunately for them they are technically criminals by entering illegally. They all knew they were taking a calculated risk by coming here, some made it, some did not.

Agreed on the reform, we are in a pendulum stage now where the previous admin let too many in without reform (The first 3 years) and how it's gone too far the other way.

pandaman 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You believe laws were not followed in the case of deportations and seem to be angry about that but simultaneously you want the laws, that demand deportations of illegal aliens, to not be followed. Do you notice any irrationality with this position?