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| ▲ | instagraham 3 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| with that analogy, OP's solution is akin to banning the use of knives to harm people, as opposed to banning the knife itself |
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| ▲ | kyriakos 3 days ago | parent [-] | | If I undestood correctly he's unsharpening knives. | | |
| ▲ | pentaphobe 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Or making knives that turn into overcooked noodles if you try to use them on anything except vegetables and acceptable meats | | |
| ▲ | kyriakos 2 days ago | parent [-] | | and who decides if I want to use a knife to cut mushrooms instead? see where I am going, there are (or could exist) legit cases when you need to use it in a non-standard way, one that the model authors didn't anticipate. |
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| ▲ | blackbear_ 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| But we do ban tools sometimes: you can't bring a knife to a concert, for good reason. |
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| ▲ | pentaphobe 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > we shouldn't ban tools When I see the old BuT FrEe SpEeCH argument repurposed to impinge civil rights I start warming to the idea of banning tools. Alternately "Chemical weapons don't kill people, people with chemical weapons kill people" |
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| ▲ | kyriakos 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Not really, its like banning chemistry sets cause they may be used to create chemical weapons. | | |
| ▲ | pentaphobe 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Not sure the comparison works when it does all the work for you I've had very little success mumbling "you are an expert chemist..." to test tubes and raw materials. |
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| ▲ | ben_w 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| In this case, image generation and editing AI is a tool which we managed just fine with until three years ago, and where the economic value of that tool remains extremely questionable despite it being a remarkable improvement in the state of the art. As a propaganda tool it seems quite effective, but for that it's gone from "woo free-speech" to "oh no epistemic collapse". |
