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yobbo 3 days ago

> It is by far the most useful skill to have in workplace.

This might be defacto true in most workplaces, but defending "politics over competence" boils down to "I deserve the rewards from other people's work".

People oppose it because it is morally wrong, not because they think it is an inaccurate description of reality.

toxik 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

You say that as if politics is optional. It isn't, decisions need to be made and politics is the process of making those decisions: who decides, and why.

In academia, for example, there is less politics because the publishing system sort of becomes the decision process. You apply with your ideas in the form of papers, the referees decide if your ideas are good enough (and demonstrated well enough) for the wider audience to even get to see. Then some politics, a popularity contest. But crucially this system famously leads to a LOT of resources being wasted, good research that never goes anywhere because nobody cares about it, or bad research that does nothing but everyone cares (cold fusion).

Politics is just a name for how we decide things. And yes, it sucks, but that's because we suck.

rswail 2 days ago | parent [-]

With this understanding of academia, you are perfectly suited to doing software development for them, because if you think there is "less politics" in academia, you are being foolish.

Academia is notorious for politics, especially around tenure and grants, scholarships, etc.

Publication politics are just a small part of that, but even there, working out which name goes in what order of the authorship of the paper is political.

toxik a day ago | parent [-]

Academia is not more notorious for politics than a corporate job, in my opinion. I've done both. Academia tries its very best to be meritocratic if anything. There is of course some degree of politics, it is inevitable, which was the point I was trying to make.

Sprotch 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s not politics over competence. It’s getting things done in the real world

einpoklum 2 days ago | parent [-]

(Every gang leader and dictator ever): That's right!

pphysch 2 days ago | parent [-]

The same applies to Universities and "democratic" institutions.