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kaffekaka 4 days ago

What you describe sounds very pleasant and I am sure it leads to great results. I kind of envy you.

However, these two things are different: the kind of work that feels fulfilling, meaningful and even beautiful, versus: delivering the needed/wanted product.

A vibe coded solution that basically works, for a quarter of the cost, has advantages.

moron4hire 4 days ago | parent [-]

We can choose not to live in a throw-away society by first not treating our own work as throw-away.

kaffekaka 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I agree. But I also think that workflows like that of noduerme might be due to his own preferences as much as the needs of the customer. I am sure it is a good process, but it is also something that feels good for the developer himself. So there will be a drive to use it not for business reasons but for personal. Then it is not based on business needs.

nradov 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The notion of intentionally making work harder and less productive as some sort of protest against society seems so bizarre and self defeating. No one else will even notice or care. There will be zero broader impact.

rewgs 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yup. "The downfall of society begins with the individual."

https://x.com/lillybilly299/status/1865133434839990601

throwaway98797 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

most things don’t endure

greater chance something will if we take more swings

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I don't know about that. Too much is allowed to not endure. I don't want to push on that point too hard, because I get what you are saying: things that are worth something will persist. Still, it would be nice if we didn't have the ridiculous churn of stuff.. that does nothing but gather dust only to be thrown away.

rewgs 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Fully disagree. First, I question the value of something merely enduring. But that aside, implicit in what you're saying here is that the "skill of the swing," so to speak, doesn't matter, whereas only the quantity of swings is what matters. Baseball players clearly negate this.