With all due respect you are living in a different world. Not in a bad way, it’s just you haven’t experienced what maintenance on a large complicated code base is like.

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mirsadm 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

The worst part of the new wave of vibe coders is their confidence.

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kaffekaka 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Different worlds yes, but they both exist.

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hatefulheart 3 days ago | parent [-]

Sure, where one is ignorant of the other. That’s not a pro.

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kaffekaka 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Small business owners not being aware of maintenance hell in large org codebases, yes, is that a problem?

I work for a large org and maintenance hell is my job, so I see both sides I think.

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hatefulheart 3 days ago | parent [-]

I’m a small business owner and solo developer on that business. Let’s just say I’d rather know the costs of my choices upfront. I’m sure there is not one small business owner in tech who would turn their nose up at that.

	▲	dubeye 3 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Good points. Works both ways though, you are splitting your time between two worlds, and don't have a fully clear view on the costs of bad choices on a small business to know this you need to know what processes these businesses have been using for the past decade to run real full time business with full time staff. for example, you don't know just how bad the prior systems were, that the self built systems replaced. with all due respect you don't have all the info to make the calculation on my world. just as I don't have it for yours. the same tool that helped me build our systems, is not going to be the same tool that helps you maintain your large code base. But my point is, that I'm on the front line of change, and my guess is it's not going to be limited to my size of business. I don't know what your tool will look like, but I'd bet it's coming
	▲	kaffekaka 3 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Fair enough, that is a good point.

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cyberge99 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

A pro is someone who makes money doing their profession.

	▲	hatefulheart 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		Pro as in pros and cons, not as in professional.

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williamcotton 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe the problem is large complicated codebases?

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HPsquared 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I think there will be a transition period.