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matthewmacleod 10 hours ago

This adds nothing. It has been repeatedly shown that stupid abstinence-driven approaches to public health do not work. It’s equivalent to saying “maybe the obesity crisis would be solved if we all just ate less”.

Moral crusades have zero place in public health and are actively harmful.

bluGill 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This isn't an abstinence driven approach it is a marry 'young' and then only that one partener for life.

ulfw 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What a truly sad life

nxm 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And yet countless couples followed this path in life and are happy

CalRobert 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Many miserable people married young and are trapped until they die.

tpm 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And countless couples followed this path in life and are not happy at all, and countless individuals can't for a variety of reasons follow this path. But public health advice should also be available to them.

nephihaha 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Psychology is a whole other matter, but if you're talking about sleeping around like Bonnie Blue then it is a form of Russian roulette and is likely to result in physical health trouble. Especially if people are having unprotected sex.

HPV spreads through oral sex as well by the way.

tpm 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I am not talking about 'sleeping around' at all. Just by the look at the divorce rates around the world it is very clear that 'marry young and then never change partners' is an advice divorced from reality.

nephihaha 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Divorce is horrible for sure but that is mainly down to interpersonal relationships.

It is a simple fact that unprotected sex with large numbers of people is very risky. We should have learnt that lesson in the eighties.

wpietri 8 hours ago | parent [-]

If there's somebody out there advocating for "unprotected sex with large numbers of people", you should go post at them, because I don't see that here.

The biggest barrier to disease transmission reduction, at least here in the US, is uncritical abstinence promoters like yourself. It works, at best, for a small fraction of the population, and leaves the rest woefully unprepared for the biological realities. The best solution to STDs is education. Which, yes, should emphasize that not having sex is an option, but cannot stop there.

isbvhodnvemrwvn 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Same goes for people who did not.

nephihaha 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not as sad as catching something which will damage you physically, sterilise them or even kill them.

People don't want to hear this obviously. But it is a fact STI transmission has skyrocketed since the so called sexual revolution of the late sixties. Within fifteen years, we has an AIDS epidemic.

matthewmacleod 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

But it is a fact STI transmission has skyrocketed since the so called sexual revolution of the late sixties

It’s the opposite of a fact. Gonorrhoea rates as an example rose significantly in the 1960s, but are now lower than in the 1940s and 1950s. This is thanks to good public health measures.

Start by making sure you’re accurately informed.

CalRobert 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Gen z are depressed, lonely, and less sexually active then their predecessors, so you may see your desired change come to pass.

matthewmacleod 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That just seems like abstinence with extra steps.

nephihaha 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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Krssst 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Disease transmission becomes prevalent if people keep doing the things which spread it

The solution to covid/flu is wearing well-fitting masks and vaccines rather than never getting out.

The solution to STIs is good protection with vaccines, condoms and tests.

Religion can stay out of that.

matthewmacleod 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah that’s a moral crusade. It’s a public health issue; you deal with it through public health measures like education, vaccination, and treatment. You don’t make it go away by wagging your finger at it.