How does copyright work with recorded music?

The article mentions that Charlie (Bird) Parker's music is now public domain in most of the world (life + 70 years), but most of his records are collaborations with other artists like Dizzy Gillespie who died much later, less than 50 years ago. I also wonder if that even matters if the records are owned by corporations.

In those cases, how would I know if a record is public domain or not?

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ronsor 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There's a copyright for the music itself, but then each recording has its own copyright. Fun, isn't it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_recording_copyright_symb...

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smegger001 19 hours ago | parent [-]

Sort of like how the movie Charade staring Carry Grant and Audrey Hepburn is public domain (due to failure to file back when that was required in the 1970's) but the soundtrack is not. So the music is in the pubic domain only when played in the movie but played separately the music is still protected.

	▲	golem14 15 hours ago \| parent [-]
		That is a nice movie, BTW.

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atmavatar 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The records themselves are likely still copyrighted due to the collaborations, but you are free to record your own performance of the songs on said records.

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dexterdog 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You don't. It's all nonsense so unless you are planning on doing something official with the material just pirate it. Copyright went far beyond lunacy decades ago and should be ignored if possible.

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Guestmodinfo 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I wonder why should Tesla , who wanted to give us free electricity lost all his patents (time ran out in those times) while he was still living. And these rent seeking entities get to keep their copyrights for far too long. Are they more important than Nikola Tesla?

Someone would retort that patent is not same as copyright. But really dude that's all just made up stuff by politicians and corporations. In the end Tesla died pennyless and these corporations and entities get to hoard all the human creativity till what it looks like an eternity for my meagre life span.

	▲	Vespasian 17 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Patents can hold up economic development of certain industries much more than copyright. Which can have huge implications if they are on fundamentals. For example commercial 3D printing (using FDM) was likely significantly stalled until the relevant patent expired. Culture is of course important but there can always be new successful Alternatives.
	▲	TheDong 16 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		As a society, modern humanity has decided that capitalism is more important than free electricity, even if it saves lives. We have enough electricity that everyone in the USA could have a generous free allowance. We've decided it's better to charge for electricity, and if an AI company can pay for it to train models, but someone freezing to death in their home cannot pay for it, that capital is a signal that the data-center should get the electricity, not the dying individual. This isn't a matter of copyright, this is a matter of how we structure society.
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flomo 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is a tech forum, you don't need to act smart because you know piracy exists. It is an interesting question.