Just bend over for Putins liberators then. There’s nothing that can be done. Let them take what they want? No thanks.

By definition anything is preferable to global nuclear holocaust, so I'm not sure where you want to go with your argument.

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	▲	actionfromafar 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I am glad you didn’t run the Cold War. Edit: by that I mean, with that attitude we would just have never developed nukes, or given the nukes to the Russians preemptively, because who wants nuclear war, right? Anything is better than that.

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mmooss 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If your plan is one that ends with the end of the world and billions dead, it's a bad plan. Attacking strawpersons doesn't make it better. You need a better plan.

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JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> one that ends with the end of the world and billions dead

The point is it doesn’t. Ukraine is on its way to wiping out Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. It’s pure posturing to pretend Moscow is stupid enough to end its existence over a naval battle, much less simply credible threats of one.

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		> The point is it doesn’t. That statement doesn't really amount to much given the risk. I think we need something far more convincing; and many experts clearly think nuclear war is a risk.

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cosmicgadget 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sounds like your criticism is better leveled at the country threatening nuclear holocaust if someone sneezes at them.

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flyinglizard 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's not yet demonstrated Russia will make the jump from a limited conventional confrontation to an all out nuclear war, even as its territory is under daily attack from a non-nuclear country.

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		It's not demonstrated, sure, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. This isn't rolling out an update to the text editor.