| ▲ | scoofy 3 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||
I honestly don't know much about warfare, but that seems like a pretty insane move to me. First, it assumes the people of Belarus is willing to start a war with NATO and it's very grumpy neighbor to the south. There isn't a world in which the Suwałki gap it cut off without strikes and an invasion of Belarus. Lukashenko might want it, but given the last "election" there will likely be a 5th, 6th, and 7th column waiting for guns to be carried over the border from Poland and Ukraine. Second, while Kaliningrad might be defensible (though I doubt that), the Baltic Sea is not. Sweden, Denmark, and Germany will shut down any ships entering and leaving the Baltic. Ukraine and Turkey cut off the Black Sea, and the Russian fleet is left in Murmansk (which is likely immediately destroyed), and Vladivostok... which as a single port as mostly useless, and can be mostly cut off in the Sea of Japan. I just really don't see a way that Russia takes any NATO territory without the entire thing being a psyop against NATO not responding via far-right isolationists, and we're not there yet, or as an assist to help China take Taiwan, which likely means world war, and we're all fucked. | ||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | voidfunc 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||
> I just really don't see a way that Russia takes any NATO territory without the entire thing being a psyop against NATO not responding via far-right isolationists, and we're not there yet, or as an assist to help China take Taiwan, which likely means world war, and we're all fucked. I mean that's really the setup. 1. Get America to move towards a more isolationist setup / unwilling to help Europe or Taiwan. This is already in motion politically and via social media operations. 2. Get America stuck in a conflict with Iran. This is ramping up. 3. China takes Taiwan. Probably in the next 2-5 years. 4. Russia takes the Baltics and starts to carve further into Europe. My further total crackpot theory on all of this is that most of this has been agreed upon by all the major powers involved. 1. Russia gets to claim over Europe in the future. 2. China gets Taiwan and control of Africa + APAC. 3. US gets control of North America and South America. This culminates in the annexation of Greenland once Russia takes Europe. This is the agreed upon transaction for America to back out of Russo-European affairs and China-Taiwan affairs. Canada and Mexico eventually are also merged into the US unwillingly but without any major allies left there isn't much to prevent it. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | mamonster 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||
>First, it assumes the people of Belarus is willing to start a war with NATO I think there is a more than 50% chance that Belarus is reintegrated in some form into Russia within this century. It's very clear that there is no plan for sovereignty post-Lukashenko and all of the opposition(like in Russia) has been exiled(so powerless). This is probably the 2nd biggest miss of EU foreign policy in the 21st century after Ukraine, they basically put Lukashenko in the same basket as Putin even though up until 2020 he did everything he could to maintain his sovereignty and got hit with horrible sanctions. But IMO it's too late now. >Second, while Kaliningrad might be defensible (though I doubt that) Russian military doctrine is kind of nebulous, but the one thing it is extremely clear on is that Kaliningrad will be defended using nuclear weapons. Exactly because it's basically not defensible using conventional means. | ||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | jacquesm 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||
Invading Ukraine was also a pretty insane move, if insanity is a pre-requisite then that makes it more likely, not less... | ||||||||||||||||||||