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fennecbutt 3 hours ago

Just like Trump's tariff bs, I'm starting to think that for Putin's M.O. that we should be fighting fire with fire.

Why not send a couple ships to drag anchors across Russia's cables? "Oh we are but innocent fishermen" is still valid going the other way.

Then when Russia inevitably seizes and imprisons the crew, the international community can do the same for every Russian controlled ship with the bare minimum of suspicion.

Would be a pretty sucky mission though, so many risks of capture. But the Russian government does it because they don't care about their people and also the rest of the world is too toothless to do anything about it (until this occurrence at least, go Finland - but then they know Russia's tactics very well).

Russia has been doing a "stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself" to the world for too long, abusing the "nice" way we desperately try to see things, pretending even when it's obvious. Like they'll do something egregious and then when the West calls them out, suddenly their political mouthpieces are all "we can't believe that the West is making this shocking and provocative accusation which is of course completely false, EU are bullies!" and then the world responds by taking a step back, pretty much every single time.

tosapple an hour ago | parent | next [-]

-- Why not send a couple ships to drag anchors across Russia's cables? "Oh we are but innocent fishermen" is still valid going the other way.

-- Then when Russia inevitably seizes and imprisons the crew

Are you volunteering yourself for a vacation in a Russian gulag?

actionfromafar 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Hire some Russians to do it. Cruel, but…

fennecbutt an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh, not at all. I don't have the balls or the skills for that.

Though perhaps we could test some autonomous trawling vessels, you know, big tech company stuff. But as we know, software can sometimes be difficult and have...bugs... ;3

type0 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Just ask for some Ukrainian undersea drones to do the job, they will be happy to hurt Russia

tosapple 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

The whole bug thing is interesting in the face of them spoofing gps so willingly.

aziaziazi 37 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

the Ukrainian already destroyed a pipeline in the same region, is it worth an internet cable?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream_pipelines_sabotage

aDyslecticCrow 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's still not confirmed who did that. Self sabotage by some European nation or even Russian is still up in the air.

Destroying that pipeline pushed Germany to act more against Russia (being officially unable to continue buying gas).

Historically anti russian states like Denmark, Sweden, Finland and Estonia or even NATO would have liked that.

Russia could have blown it up themselves to pin it on Ukraine to decrease support, but that doesn't seem to be the outcome.

Even germany could have blown it up to pivot their own politics.

It's a massive game of clue. It may become declassified in 20 years by whoever did it.