Gaming now works better on Linux than it does on Windows. This must be upsetting for Microsoft, but it was their game to lose.

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voidfunc 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I dont get the feeling they care. Microsoft is so lost under Satya at this point. Totally blinded by Azure and AI and stock price growth. At some point they're going to realize all the ground they've lost and it's going to be a real problem. They're repeating a lot of the same mistakes that cost them the browser and mobile market.

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diabllicseagull 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah. MS must have been so hurt about losing to the iPhone, they really jumped the gun on AI as if to avoid a similar mistake. It's Satya's major play and I think they are already paying for that decision. xbox is hollowed out so that AI can be funded, while the pc/console hybrid project is doomed to fail because "windows everywhere" doesn't work if windows is crap. indeed, they might be left with just the cloud business in the end.

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gerdesj 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Totally blinded by Azure and AI and stock price growth."

Stock price growth is their core business because that is how large firms operate.

MS used to embrace games etc because the whole point was all PCs should run Windows. Now the plan is to get you onto a subscription to their cloud. The PC bit is largely immaterial in that model. Enterprises get the rather horrible Intune bollocks to play with but the goal is to lock everyone into subs.

	▲	tombert 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It's pretty much every American business now isn't it? Do any big corporations actually make money anymore? I thought all of them more or less have operated under Ponzinomics ever since Jack Welch showed that that worked in the short term.

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dontlaugh 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They don’t care, they’re defunding Xbox and even the Windows team is hollowed out.

	▲	k12sosse 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		When the rumour was Windows 10 will be the last windows! I don't think people thought it would because of win11 would be so unbearable it would finally drive users to Linux.. but here we are. RIP.

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casey2 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If people were buying new PCs every year like they used to I'd be worth it. Turns out there isn't as much value having a "captive market" on a PC unless it's locked down.

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threethirtytwo 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The irony is that gaming on linux got better but the instigator was not the OSS community. All of it was funded by closed source software competing with other close source software. The OSS community by itself did not have the conviction to climb over this bulwark.

	▲	nine_k 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		But when Steam started to develop Proton, WINE was 90% there! Valve only had to provide the remaining 90%. The strength of Linux and Free software in general is not in that it's completely built by unpaid labor. It's built by a lot of paid, full-time labor. But the results are shared with everyone. The strength of Free software is that it fosters and enforces cooperation of all interested parties, and provides a guarantee that defection is an unprofitable move. This is one of the reasons you see Linux everywhere, and *BSD, rarely.
	▲	Spivak 30 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Money and resources suddenly materialized once someone realized that there was profit in it is pretty much the expected way this goes. OpenTofu happened not because of some OSS force of will but because a group of companies needed it to exist for their business. This flow is basically the bread and butter for the OSS community and the only way high effort projects get done.

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jetbalsa 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This still has a "sometimes" on it, there are more then a few games that need magic proton flags to run well, nothing you can't go look up on protondb, but lots of games you would want to play with friends might have some nasty anti-cheat on it that just won't let you play it at all.

	▲	ErroneousBosh an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Exactly. Battlefield 6 for example does not work at all in Proton. This is a far better user experience for Battlefield players than in Windows. Have you ever actually attempted to play that half-assed buggy piece of shit?

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spockz 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Gaming works fine with exception of things like BF6 that require kernel level anti cheat.

The one thing I haven’t been able to get working reliably is steam remote play with the Linux machine as host. Most games work fine, others will only capture black screens.

	▲	jetbalsa 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		if you are running KDE you can whitelist Steam for remote desktop work, this is because of wayland.

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tombert 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Proton has gotten so good now that I don't even bother checking compatibility before buying games.

Granted, I don't play online games, so that might change things, but for years I used to have to make a concession that "yeah Windows is better for games...", but in the last couple years that simply has not been true. Games seem to run better on Linux than Windows, and I don't have to deal with a bunch of Microsoft advertising bullshit.

Hell, even the Microsoft Xbox One controllers work perfectly fine with xpad and the SteamOS/tenfoot interface recognizes it as an Xbox pad immediately, and this is with the official Microsoft Xbox dongle.

At this point, the only valid excuses to stay on Windows, in my opinion, are online games and Microsoft Office. I don't use Office since I've been on Unixey things so long that I've more or less just gotten used to its options, but I've been wholly unable to convince my parents to change.

I love my parents, but sometimes I want to kick their ass, because they can be a bit stuck in their ways; I am the one who is expected to fix their computer every time Windows decides to brick their computer, and they act like it's weird for me to ask them to install Linux. If I'm the one who has to perform unpaid maintenance on this I don't think it's weird for me to try and get them to use an operating system that has diagnostic tools that actually work.

As far as I can tell, the diagnostic and repair tools in Windows have never worked for any human in history, and they certainly have never worked for me. I don't see why anyone puts up with it when macOS and Linux have had tools that actually work for a very long time.