Good. The sooner I can run Firefox with the legit uBlock origin the better.

While its not Firefox, you can run uBlock origin with the Orion browser from the Kagi people.

That’s what I’m currently doing - it’s barely functional. I’m sure it’ll get there eventually but it misses a ton of stuff the desktop version blocks.

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browningstreet 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm running 1Blocker on iOS Safari, what am I not getting?

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nvr219 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm using wipr and it's great. using vinegar/baking soda for video adblocks.

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concinds 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Proper, full blocking of ads and trackers. Just because you can't see most of them doesn't mean the network requests aren't getting through. And you're not getting a free and open-source extension. And you're not getting 3 extra bucks a month in your wallet, because those grifters made you pay for some pixels despite not contributing to the adblock lists their "business" depends on.

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madeofpalk an hour ago | parent [-]

what do you mean? 1Blocker blocks network requests.

It might not block everything to the degree of uBlock Origin, but it does block network requests.

	▲	concinds 27 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		The stuff that makes it through is what I mean.

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Imustaskforhelp 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Okay now that we have come to the topic, How is Orion browser on App store whereas all others aren't?

is there a way to make more innovation in this area and maybe an extension or two developed adding more perms etc or forking Orion or the know-how behind it and replicating it could finally allow PWA on apple iphones?

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dcdc123 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There are many browsers on the App Store but they all have to use one of two browser engines bundled with iOS.

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Imustaskforhelp 3 hours ago | parent [-]

No you don't get me but all browsers in Iphone even firefox and chrome are webkit forks

and neither of them allow any sort of extensions on top

Orion is the only one I think which still supports firefox or chrome extensions as well. I am sure that it can support PWA or already does, not sure, someone should probably test it out.

Theoretically if you can modify the engine enough to run firefox/chrome extensions on it when firefox/chrome themselves on Iphone can't but somehow Orion can, I don't see a reason why nobody's else doing it but combined with some really really good pwa support as well?

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dcdc123 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't think you get how it works. When you download a browser on iOS it does not have an engine _at all_, not even a "WebKit fork". The browser is just a UI and wrapper for one of the engines bundles in iOS. No modifications can be done to the engine whatsoever, it is part of the OS.

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Imustaskforhelp an hour ago | parent [-]

Yeah sorry, I don't really have an Iphone so I was just going on a wild hunch.

I would love to discuss about it and how Orion works then.

My question to you is, how is Orion possible to get firefox/chromium extensions working in webkit then, Because I know that Orion's core itself is built on top of webkit but I am wondering what other additions they did to make it possible to have firefox extensions as an example on the Ios

Can you please walk me through how this is possible? I see no other being able to do such a thing. Like how do they make it work then while the engine bundles in Ios.

I also want to ask if possible is that since I can just go to firefox mozilla addon store and get any extension and use it in Orion. Isn't this sort of really similar to an app store itself with 0 restrictions considering that firefox extensions are very unrestricted usually and similar to PWA (not sure)

This is already possible with Orion so I am wondering why more discoveries are not being done in this space. I would love seeing an open source alternative to Orion as well for Iphone perhaps.

Thank you for telling me that browsers work at an operating system level in Ios but can you please tell me how Orion's then able to do such stuff? And can certain more discoveries be made on that front regarding PWA support , extension support similar to orion etc. as well then?

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madeofpalk an hour ago | parent [-]

The Firefox/Chromium extension APIs are just javascript. Orion reimplements them with the features that Webkit/JavascriptCore provides.

	▲	Imustaskforhelp 28 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Oh alright, thanks for telling. Is there no way that something can be done for PWA abilities? What's stopping PWA on ios, I don't really follow? I would love it if you can clear up my confusion regarding it.

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Apocryphon 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Orion has always been designed to use WebKit.

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inquirerGeneral 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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