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| ▲ | xnx 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Flying taxis make a lot of sense for very specific areas (e.g. Manhattan) and applications (e.g. mountain rescue). | | |
| ▲ | tyre 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Ain’t no way you want flying taxis in Manhattan. If two collide or one fails, you could kill dozens of people. Maaaaybe instead of the tunnels and bridges, to increase throughput during rush hours, but even then we’re trying to have fewer vehicles in Manhattan, not more. Also, I cannot imagine what it would be like to go through an intersection during the winter. You would be hit with a wall of cross-cutting wind tunneling down 50 blocks that no airborne device is going to handle well. Absolute nightmare. | | |
| ▲ | xnx 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Right. This wouldn't be point to point on the Manhattan grid, but from Manhattan Island back and forth to the airports. | | |
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| ▲ | exsomet 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I’m not an expert by any means, but one of the major impediments I would imagine to flying taxis carrying people is safety; there’s a _lot_ that has to be done before people board an airplane in terms of checks, paperwork, planning, etc. The dream of “order a flying taxi on your phone and it takes you wherever you want in five minutes” isn’t really compatible with aviation safety culture (at least at the pilot level in the US). That’s not to say it can’t be done, but you probably need a lot of really good PR people to figure out how to say “we want to remove the safety controls from this so we can make money with it” and have people buy it. | | |
| ▲ | metalman 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | aviation occupies a great deal of my attention, and there is a logic to everything that is done, based on actual provable, repeatable results.
anything involved in high volume passenger aviation has to pass reliability tests that will dry your eyes out just reading through the synopsis, nothing is making it to the PR stage.
I splain little bit, pick some fancy country full of rich people flying around, tell them that the US has just ripped the lid off airspace restrictions (again¹), and is now letting some kind of ubber drone thing loose , and quite litteraly instantly there will be calls for all flights going to the US to turn around as all insurance policys for commercial flights to the US will be null and void. ¹one of the few times the US has been forced to back down admit fault, and agree to changes.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/12/17/united... |
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| ▲ | notatoad 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | i don't think mountain rescue is asking for a better vehicle. traditional helicopters work. flying taxi startups, drone companies, jetpack companies, and all the other fantastical flying startyps keep trying to say they have applications in mountain rescue, but i'm pretty sure that's providing a lot more benefit to the flying taxi startup's pitch deck than it is to any mountain rescue operation. | |
| ▲ | ph4rsikal 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | China calls it the low-altitude economy, and besides human transportation there is a lot that can be done. Personally, I believe that propeller-driven devices are too dangerous and noisy, but there might be innovations coming out of China that Europe can't | | | |
| ▲ | aziaziazi 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What attribute should they have to make them more suited than helicopters? Silence ? Energy efficiency ? No landing pad ? | | |
| ▲ | xnx 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Lower noise, lower operating cost, lower purchase price, easier to pilot, more reliable (fewer parts), safer (redundancy), no emissions, faster time to air, configurable to requirements, etc. | | |
| ▲ | rpcope1 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes, I too want my space alien anti-gravity flying saucer. Those eggheads need to hurry it up. |
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| ▲ | rpcope1 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > any kind of outdoor rescue You know we have these things called "helicopters", right? | | |
| ▲ | signatoremo 21 minutes ago | parent [-] | | We also had carriages before cars. What’s the deal of so many “X already exists therefore any replacement is pointless” posts? |
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| ▲ | andrepd 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Flying taxis make a lot of sense for very specific areas (e.g. Manhattan) The things people will do to not build bike paths. | | |
| ▲ | jfengel 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Unfortunately Manhattan doesn't seem like a great place for bikes. The weather is just too variable. Some daredevils will be out in any weather but for most people it's just not feasible about half of the days of the year. Not that helicopters make any more sense. The city needs some car bans, and yes, bicycles are part of replacing that. But only mass transit will be able to move enough people when there's a foot of slush on the ground. | | |
| ▲ | medstrom 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | ...ChatGPT? Such an odd take, to point at weather being variable. This is a coastal city at a fairly run-of-the-mill latitude, people build functional bike networks in much worse. |
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| ▲ | jstummbillig 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What is moronic about the idea? | | |
| ▲ | i80and 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's hard to pick just one reason, but off the top of my head: * Any failure tends to turn flying things into unguided missiles * Noise is extremely hard to control -- I did an FAA helicopter discovery lesson, and oof * Cities tend to have difficult to manage wind currents and hit-or-miss visibility. I was in a skyscraper across from one hit by a helicopter trying and failing to land in 2019 -- there's reasons for city no-fly zones * Limited landing sites makes them highly situational in the first place, unless you want your streets to be helipads, which you don't These are all fairly intrinsic and not mitigable. I can think of more issues more in the sticks, but you get the idea. | | |
| ▲ | tyre 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The wind in NYC is no joke. In brooklyn yesterday there were gusts so strong that car alarms were going off. In some apartment buildings, the handicap-accessible automatic doors simply cannot open into the wind. Imagine being in a flying car. Nope nope nope! | |
| ▲ | pastel8739 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | One more reason is that it cannot actually solve the traffic problem that it claims to solve. It might be able to solve it for rich people when they are the only ones that can afford to travel by air, but if the cost ever comes down low enough for the masses to afford it, I don’t see any reason that congestion wouldn’t be as bad or worse than it is now. And to me it’s not a good investment to improve things just for rich people. | | |
| ▲ | leoc 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | There’s just a lot more space when you can move in three dimensions, so I don’t think the congestion limitations of non-flying cars are likely to be replicated. IIUC (I’m no expert) that’s one of the most attractive features of flying VTOL vehicles. | | |
| ▲ | i80and 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You're bandwidth-limited on a sparse serialized landing site map no matter what, and you need far higher distance margins that will eat up basically all of the dimensional advantages. If ground vehicles side-swipe, it's just an insurance claim. If flying vehicles sideswipe, it's a Problem(tm). | |
| ▲ | pastel8739 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I honestly think the most attractive features of VTOL vehicles are that they are from sci fi, and you can look up and see a bunch of empty space and wish you were there while sitting in traffic. |
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| ▲ | jstummbillig 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I am (usually) not willing to assume that the founders of highly technical startups would not consider something that I as an outsider would in the first 5 minutes of engaging with the topic. That makes me skeptical of all of these (minus the wind currents in cities, that might have taken a little longer). | | |
| ▲ | i80and 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If a startup were able to truly solve the first two issues alone, they would not be burning those world-changing engineering solutions on flying taxis. I don't know if a silent, fail-safe, and efficient method of flight is physically impossible or not, but I do know this is low on the list of applications it would be first seen in. EDIT: I'm looking at the air taxi companies this thread started with, and no, they have not solved any of the relevant problems. | |
| ▲ | sverhagen 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Founders can be chasing a dream and in doing so mesmerize investors. Or they capitalize on that same dream being the investor's. Even if it's not viable, it can still be really fun company to work for and/or earn money at. Even if there is a small lane for that sort of flying machine, the sheer number of companies purportedly working on something like that is suspect. Given the huge costs for development and certification, and the small number of vehicles that will really get deployed (certainly for the first so many years), there must be many that are never going to make their money back. I worked for a drone-adjacent company and now my LinkedIn is swamped with these startups. | |
| ▲ | RodgerTheGreat 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Theranos was famously founded on pitches about blood testing from finger pricks that literally any phlebotomist and many people with a modest life science background could've told you were physically and statistically impossible on their face. You should be considerably less credulous toward startup grifters. | | |
| ▲ | jstummbillig 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | The reason why you (and everyone else) knows about Theranos is that it was unique, which serves as a bad signifier if you want to judge what is likely to happen with the next startup. Being in prison and losing billions of dollars is just not something most people get excited about. | | |
| ▲ | cbzbc 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | The reason we know about Theranos is that it ended up in court. Plenty of other startups have had obviously impractical ideas that didn't go anywhere. |
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| ▲ | ericd 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Because noise? |
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