| ▲ | jmyeet 15 hours ago | |||||||||||||
There is no such thing as a defensive weapon. You might be tempted to say "what about a missile shield?" but such a thing allows the owner to act with impunity with levels of violence we arguably haven't seen since 1945. As a real example of this, the only reason a deeper conflict didn't develop with Iran this year was because Iran demonstrated they could overwhelm the various layers of Israel's missile shield and Iran seriously depleted the various munitions used by those air defense systems (eg interceptors, THAAD) and those take a long time to replenish. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||
> There is no such thing as a defensive weapon I agree if we reframe it as “purely defensive,” though there is a bit of tautology invoked with the “weapon” qualifier. That said, there is legitimacy to developing defensive arms, even if one doesn’t like the ones doing it. > the only reason a deeper conflict didn't develop with Iran this year was because Iran demonstrated they could overwhelm the various layers of Israel's missile shield This hypothesis is not sustained by Iran’s reduced firing rate throughout the conflict. All evidence suggests Iran lost its war with Israel and would lose it again if they go for round 2. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | belorn 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
If you want society to be more vulnerable to military action, then the biggest innovation is health care. Improved health care is what allowed nations to create and maintain larger military forces. Through out history, disease and malnourished caused more death by a large margin than actually violence in combat, and many war campaign stopped suddenly because one or both sides became unable to continue. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | jstummbillig 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
> You might be tempted to say "what about a missile shield?" but such a thing allows the owner to act with impunity with levels of violence we arguably haven't seen since 1945. I would still say "what about a missile shield?". If a missile shield is a weapon, because of its affordances, then any object is a weapon. And while that's marginally true I don't think we get anywhere by entertaining category errors. If something enables aggression, because it makes counter attacks unreasonable, that seems like a fairly nice thing to have more of, in a world where destruction is far too easy and construction is fairly hard. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | drnick1 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
> As a real example of this, the only reason a deeper conflict didn't develop with Iran this year was because Iran demonstrated they could overwhelm the various layers of Israel's missile shield and Iran seriously depleted the various munitions used by those air defense systems (eg interceptors, THAAD) and those take a long time to replenish. Lol no, Iran was utterly humiliated in this conflict, and outed as a paper tiger. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | wat10000 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
That’s gross. You’re basically saying that hundreds of millions of people need to be held as hostages to ensure good behavior, and that trying to rescue those hostages is morally wrong. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | oytis 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||
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