And the air quality around these plants is poor, leading to health problems for the neighbors.

This short term, destructive, thinking should be criminalized.

I think it's time to discuss changing the incentives around ai deployment, specifically paying into a ubi fund whenever human jobs are replaced by ai. Musk himself raised the idea.

https://www.indexbox.io/blog/tech-leaders-push-for-universal...

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PunchyHamster 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It can't be "criminalized" if govt and justice system is effectively actively bribed by the AI cartel because AI-related GDP "growth" is only veneer hiding the economical fuckups of the government

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lukan 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I assumed gas plants are pretty good in terms of air quality?

Coal plants are bad.

	▲	imglorp 15 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		In the case of Grok's turbines, no emissions controls means sick people. Plus all the CO2 pushing climate collapse faster which hurts every coming generation. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/06/elon-musk-xai-memph...
	▲	condensedcrab 16 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Gas plants are not bad… but imagine 400 MW of gas plants in a concentrated area. You’ll always have NOx and SOx by products whenever you’re burning gas.
	▲	HPsquared 16 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		It depends on if they treat the exhaust to remove nitrogen oxides. Not sure what the standard is for this kind of plant though.
	▲	macNchz 15 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Gas is certainly less of a problem than coal, but they still produce plenty of bad stuff: nitrogen oxides and bad VOCs like formaldehyde that are well studied to increase risk of asthma and some types of cancer. I certainly wouldn’t want to live close to one.