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nosianu 3 hours ago

So... I remember math including doing quite a bit of geometry by hand and with real tools, at least initially. "Math" is not just the symbol stuff written with a pencil, or with a keyboard.

The mechanical analog computers of old (e.g. https://youtu.be/IgF3OX8nT0w, or https://youtu.be/s1i-dnAH9Y4) are examples too that math is more than symbol manipulation.