People seem to have the assumption that OpenAI and Anthropic dying would be synonymous with AI dying, and that's not the case. OpenAI and Anthropic spent a lot of capital on important research, and if the shareholders and equity markets cannot learn to value and respect that and instead let these companies die, new companies will be formed with the same tech, possibly by the same general group of people, thrive, and conveniently leave out the said shareholders.

Google was built on the shoulders of a lot of infrastructure tech developed by former search engine giants. Unfortunately the equity markets decided to devalue those giants instead of applaud them for their contributions to society.

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raw_anon_1111 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You weren’t around pre Google were you? The only thing Google learned from other search engines is what not to do - like rank based on the number of times a keyword appeared and not to use expensive bespoked servers

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dheera 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I was around pre-Google.

Ranking was Google's 5% contribution to it. They stood on the shoulders of people who invented physical server and datacenter infrastructure, Unix/Linux, file systems, databases, error correction, distributed computing, the entire internet infrastructure, modern Ethernet, all kinds of stuff.

	▲	raw_anon_1111 6 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		And none of that had to do with learning from other search engines…
	▲	golem14 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Eh ... I question that 5% ranking is google's only contribution, even if it was important. Everyone stood on the shoulders of file systems and databases, ethernet (and firewalls and netscreens, ...) Well, maybe a few stood on the shoulder of PHP. Google did in fact pretty much figure out how to scale large number of servers (their racking, datacenters, clustering, global file systems etc) before most others did. I believe it was their ability to run the search engine cheap enough that enabled them to grow while largely retaining profitability early on.
	▲	ashirviskas 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Yeah, I remember the moment search engines invented computing, I cannot look at sand the same way anymore /s

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tootie 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Isn't it really the other way around? Not to say OpenAI and Anthropic haven't done important work, but the genesis of this entire market was paper on attention that came out of Google. We have the private messages inside OpenAI saying they needed to get to market ASAP or Google would kill them.