| ▲ | mr_mitm 4 hours ago |
| There is an entire Wikipedia article about Musk's (mostly) failed predictions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autono... |
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| ▲ | 1121redblackgo 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| At what point is it fair to call the list something other than ‘predictions’ |
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| ▲ | mmmm2 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Pump and dump scheme? | |
| ▲ | vrosas 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | s/Predictions/Ketamine-and-adderall-fueled ramblings | | |
| ▲ | spwa4 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I think they mean grift or even fraud, since they were definitely meant to attract investment. Now excuse me while I go check on where my 2016 full-self-driving Tesla car. It was supposed to pick me up 9 years ago, something must have happened. |
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| ▲ | rchaud 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | "Tech Optimism" | |
| ▲ | mr_mitm 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | According to the article, a court would call this "corporate puffery", but to me it's nothing but lies and grifting. |
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| ▲ | silisili 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I had no idea this existed, that's pretty damning. The question - is Musk lying on purpose, or is this more 90-90 rule where he made (obviously wrong) assumptions based on current progress? |
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| ▲ | selkin 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If he himself believes he can achieve his off-the-cuff deadlines or not doesn't matter for the rest of us: he already proven himself to be a fabulist, and after so many failed predictions, should know better than to air them in public, especially as he must be acutely aware that making such claims inflates his and his companies' net worth, and hence has legal implications. Only he cares not about those, as none of his past misdeeds had any serious consequences to himself. | |
| ▲ | rchaud 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How about the possibility that the cost of lying is less than the capital gains that can be realized by lying about it? EM was only fined $20 million when he said he had secured funding to take the company private at $420/share [0]. The stock bounce from that "news" was in the billions. As it stands, he can get a trillion dollar pay package if a something-trillion market cap target is hit. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/04/elon-musk-loses-... | |
| ▲ | janalsncm 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The latter implies there is any progress to project out from. |
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| ▲ | toxik 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Actually a very interesting article! Didn't know he'd been selling this lie for so long. |
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| ▲ | qoez 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The best counter argument to that is that he did manage to predict/make into reality electric vehicles (when going into that industry was crazy) and reusable rockets. If someone makes a thousand moonshot attempts but still succeeds with two that's impressive. |
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| ▲ | lucianbr 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Something is missing here. Once you get two moonshots done, you have free pass to claim anything any number of times with zero results? I cannot agree. | |
| ▲ | LunaSea 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Electric vehicles were the first types of cars invented. Musk also bought into Tesla. So its not like he invented some kind of alien technology. It was always about having good enough marketing to permit 10 years of R&D to make the car actually attractive. | | | |
| ▲ | mikestew 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | he did manage to predict/make into reality electric vehicles (when going into that industry was crazy) Nissan might like a word about that. |
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| ▲ | marze 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| "Tesla, where we make the impossible late" |
