Defining art in this way is like defining intelligence as the possession of a degree from Stanford. It's just branding.

Art shouldn't make you feel comfortable and safe. It should provoke you and in this sense AI art is doing the job better than traditional art at the moment here.

Other than the technological aspect, there's nothing new under the sun here. And at its very worst, AI art is just Andy Warhol at hyperscale.

https://wbpopphilosopher.wordpress.com/2023/05/07/andy-warho...

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caconym_ 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think it's actually quite apt to look at all of "AI art" as a single piece, or suite, with a unified argument or theme. Maybe in that sense it is some kind of art, even if it wasn't intended that way by its creators.

Similarly, I'm not sure that argument is making the point those who deploy it intend to make.

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LogicFailsMe 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I think the entire fear of AI schtick to farm engagement is little more than performance art for our FAANNG overlords personally. It behaves precisely like the right wing manosphere but with different daily talking points repeated ad nauseum. Bernie Sanders has smelled the opportunity here and really stepped up his game.

But TBF, performance art theatre is art as well.

The end game IMO will be incorporation of AI art toolsets into commercial art workflows and a higher value placed on 100% human art (however that ends up being defined) and then we'll find something new and equally idiotic to trigger us or else we might run out of excuses and/or scapegoats for our malaise.

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caconym_ 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> incorporation of AI art toolsets into commercial art workflows and a higher value placed on 100% human art

I don't even really believe serious artists need to totally exclude themselves from using genAI as a tool, and I've heard the same from real working artists (generally those who have established careers doing it). Unfortunately, that point inhabits the boring ideological center and is drowned out by the screaming from both extremes.

	▲	LogicFailsMe 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		They aren't, but some are already using pseudonyms to experiment with it to avoid the haters condemning them for doing so. And their work is predictably far superior from the get-go to asking Sora to ghiblify your dog.

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bogzz 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I Ghiblified a photo of my dog when chatgpt 4 came out. I was utterly horrified by the results.

It's exciting being able to say that I am an artist, I always wondered what my life would have been had I gone into the arts, and now I can experience it! Thank you techmology.

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LogicFailsMe 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you really want to experience the struggles and persecution of an artist, you should empty your bank account and find a life partner to support you while you struggle with your angst and inner trauma that are the source of your creativity. But, to be fair, complaining about AI art is a great start down that path!

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bogzz 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Logic might fail you, but snark is Ol' Faithful it seems.

	▲	LogicFailsMe 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		How else would you address the incessant ramblings of people who figuratively curse the sunset daily? After AI art has been integrated into the already existing suite of digital art applications (which themselves were once not considered art), whatever shall you complain about next? Now if you wanted to define art to require 100% bodily fluids and solids 100% handcrafted to be the only real art, now that I'd understand.

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yunwal 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

what you did was not even close to an attempt at making good art.