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llmslave2 8 hours ago

It's not an either/or. Modern Javascript is actually really nice to write and use, and you can write it in a tight, minimal way that doesn't bloat the page or slow it down.

trinix912 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Of course you can, but most people still opt to pull in a whole framework (React) or heavy library (jQuery) just to achieve what's essentially a few XMLHttpRequests and some DOM changes.

tonyedgecombe 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>you can write it in a tight, minimal way that doesn't bloat the page or slow it down.

Yet most people don't.

There are some problems with the language itself but it's mostly from a users perspective that I find it frustrating.