| ▲ | MoltenMan 12 hours ago |
| I can't say I understand the Palantir hate. Isn't it just a database analytics SaaS? Why not hate Google as well because government employees who do things you don't like use Google? Is the Palantir hate just manufactured pointless rage or is there an actual reason behind it? |
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| ▲ | frm88 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Palantir have the means and at least in the U. S. the call to compile a database combining personal data over many (public) agencies, making a comprehensive surveillance of a population possible: https://web.archive.org/web/20250530212437/https://www.nytim... |
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| ▲ | didntknowyou 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| with a CEO that openly boast their product is great at getting data to kill people, what's there not to hate? |
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| ▲ | max_ 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Palantir is a spyware company and the CEO Alex Karp has explicitly said that thier goal is to use their tooling to create fear in people and kill people (i.e people deemed enemies of the United States) |
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| ▲ | mlrtime 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Are you talking about the quote where he referred to people brining Fentanyl in that is killing people? I didn't see anything wrong with his little speech. | | |
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| ▲ | BrenBarn 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think a fair number of people who hate Palantir do hate Google too. |
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| ▲ | int_19h 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Google at least pretends to "not be evil". Palantir is proud of their work on the ICE contract. |
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| ▲ | pelorat 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Because the founders are evil and should in in prison? |
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| ▲ | tombert 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You should probably hate Google too, but I think a lot of Palantir hate comes from (well deserved) hatred for Peter Thiel, who has injected himself directly into conservative politics. Billionaires buying their way into the political system should be hated implicitly, no matter their political affiliation. |
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| ▲ | lithocarpus 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Palantir is more directly involved in the surveillance state and military industrial complex. Not saying Google isn't, but it's at least not as public or blatant, and is much less of what Google does overall. |
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| ▲ | aprilthird2021 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Palantir makes AI to determine if who you are auto droning is a valid target or not. You can imagine why people dislike that, especially given that it's been deployed in Palestine |
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| ▲ | pageandrew 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | Would you prefer that militaries have less-capable software to make targeting decisions? | | |
| ▲ | pxoe 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Perhaps it would be preferable at least to not mix civilian health data or regular business data, with mass surveillance data, and with military industrial complex and kill chain data. It would make sense to have an interest in keeping different kinds of personal data in separate places and not have it thrown around companies with quite different interests or collected together within some company that's involved in quite different industries. So why does it not make sense to apologists of this company? | |
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| ▲ | berkanunal 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How capable it is do you think at this moment. I guess we need 30 more years for software to get better, so less than 20 thousand children dies in the Gaza genocide. | |
| ▲ | hackable_sand 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I would prefer that militaries do not deliberately genocide civilians and antagonize non-combatants. | | |
| ▲ | XorNot 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's a "motherhood statement"[1] - you haven't answered the question. Militaries make targeting decisions with data. That's entirely separate to whether they have been ordered by civilian government to target something, and Palantir do not control that part of decision making (you as a voter do! You did vote right?) 1. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/motherhood_statement | | |
| ▲ | dwb 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | No it’s not. It’s totally conceivable that the (perceived) quality of targeting data would contribute to the decision of whether to run a mission at all, and if so how extensively. | | |
| ▲ | whimsicalism 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | isn’t that essentially true of any technology that reduces the civilian casualties of a conflict? | | |
| ▲ | dwb 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The companies involved definitely want you to think that part of their noble goal is reducing civilian casualties. As far as I can see, though, that is pure propaganda. | | |
| ▲ | whimsicalism 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | i am not saying that is the case here, all i am saying is that your argument would apply to any technology that lets you better differentiate/target enemies vs. civilians, which suggests to me it is overbroad. | | |
| ▲ | dwb an hour ago | parent [-] | | You are reading perhaps more generality than I intended. To be clear, I am talking about the present greater-Anglo-American military-industrial complex, driven by present ideologies, in which the distinction between “enemy” and “civilian” itself is extremely debatable. |
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| ▲ | rkomorn 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You can reduce civilian casualties by reducing the number of people considered civilians. |
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| ▲ | mexicocitinluez 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Absolutely. And that the people who stand to benefit the most from another war might want to filter/target that data in a way to make that more probable? I mean, I know it's a stretch. Especially with how benevolent our current class of billionaires are. But just imagine a guy who thinks money is more important than anything else. I know... another stretch. lol. |
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| ▲ | hackable_sand 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Oh sorry I mean Yes, citizen-friend! I have upheld the Prime Directive and participated in our routine civic sports. Next month I will initiate the annual tributary credit transfer so that the oracle may see more clearly. | |
| ▲ | mexicocitinluez 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > > Palantir do not control that part of decision making (you as a voter do! You did vote right?) You're not actually suggesting that the company providing the data isn't at all part of that process, are you? Can you, for a second, imagine a company collecting/forwarding only data that's beneficial to it's core objective? Especially one whose led by a guy who has quite literally benefits off of a war???? |
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| ▲ | p0w3n3d 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Everyone here is writing as if it was obvious, but I need more details. Could you please share any links on the subject? | | |
| ▲ | m4ck_ 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Sure thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Cities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%B3spera They want to establish cities that are exempt from most US law and regulation (or whatever host country they leech on to), giving the company that owns the city basically complete power over everything and everyone that has the misfortune to be there. The US recently pardoned a major narco-terrorsist in the hopes of propping up the Honduran experiment. I'll preempt anyone else: Yes I probably exaggerated a bit in how I described the idea. Still, these assholes are working to eliminate wages, labor laws, environmental regs, property ownership, etc. | |
| ▲ | KaiserPro 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Karp memorised oswald mosley's speech for capitulating to hitler: https://nypost.com/2025/11/18/us-news/why-eccentric-palantir... At best thats wierd, at worst he's an actual fascist (context: Oswald created and ran the british union of fascists in the UK, married the diana mitford with both Goebbels and Hitler present. ) | | |
| ▲ | mlrtime 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Ahh yes, the left's version of "If you don't agree with us on everything you are a fascist." Boring. |
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| ▲ | xboxnolifes 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Palantir might just pretty up the display of the data that is aggregated by other vendors, which source their data from other vendors, who collect their data from "opt-in" services, which technically explain how they work somewhere in a 200 page ToS. But at some point you gotta look at the sum of the incremental issues and say enough is enough. |
