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jhgb 14 hours ago

Nobody decided that it's a crime, and it's unlikely to happen. Question is, what do you do with mandatory snooping of centralized proprietary services that renders them functionally useless aside from "just live with it". I was hoping for actual advice rather than a snarky non-response, yet here we are.

Fnoord 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Nobody decided that it's a crime, and it's unlikely to happen.

Which jurisdiction are you on about? [1] Pick your poison.

For example, UK has a law forcing suspects to cooperate. This law has been used to convict suspects who weren't cooperating.

NL does not, but police can use force to have a suspect unlock a device using finger or face.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_disclosure_law

akerl_ 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I gave you the answer that exists: I'm not aware of any existing or likely-to-exist secure messaging solution that would be a viable recommendation.

The available open-source options come nowhere close to the messaging security that Signal/Whatsapp provide. So you're left with either "find a way to access Signal after they pull out of whatever region has criminalized them operating with a backdoor on comms" or "pick any option that doesn't actually have strong messaging security".

johnisgood 12 hours ago | parent [-]

> messaging security

> WhatsApp

Eh?

There are alternatives, try Ricochet (Refresh) or Cwtch.

akerl_ 11 hours ago | parent [-]

I stand by what I said.

johnisgood 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean... why?

closewith 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Not the GP, but most of us want to communicate with other people, which means SMS or WhatsApp. No point have perfect one-time-pad encryption and no one to share pads with.

closewith 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You're asking for a technical solution to a political problem.

The answer is not to live with it, but become politically active to try to support your principles. No software can save you from an authoritarian government - you can let that fantasy die.