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abigail95 5 hours ago

I get mad triggered by software license violation discussions.

Please for the love of all that the FSF thinks is holy - just file a damn lawsuit if you are telling me they are violating the law. State your claim and have a court sort it out.

It costs hundreds of dollars. For a medical device? Seems like a good deal.

austhrow743 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The OP almost certainly isn’t a copyright holder for the Linux kernel. They probably would have said if they were.

abigail95 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Then why are they trying to enforce copyright/contract law without standing?

Making a blog post about someone elses copyright being violated is even more annoying to me.

austhrow743 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Huh, they’re not. You’re the one saying they should.

abigail95 3 hours ago | parent [-]

What's their basis for sending the emails then? If not one of legal standing in copyright/contract law?

Edit: My point is this is just another one of many annoying people you have to deal with who will email you alleging all sorts of legal violations, who don't themselves understand anything about the claims they are making.

austhrow743 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Basis? You mean reason?

They want the Linux kernel source code.

cj 2 hours ago | parent [-]

No, he means basis, not reason. There's a difference and I'm genuinely curious in your answer.

austhrow743 an hour ago | parent [-]

Sure, I understand that there's a difference. That's why I sought clarification.

My understanding of the concept of "basis" does not fit the context of sending an email, and "reason" is the closest I can find that fits.

Basis being concerned with rules or authority. The assumption being when asking "what is the basis for X?" that there was a bar that needed to be met beyond the doers motivations. That there needed to be more than they wanted to. Which of course, does not apply to sending an email. I could email you right now asking you what your favourite type of fish is or seeing if you want to play a game of chess, no basis needed. I'd just need a reason to.

cj an hour ago | parent [-]

That’s a very intricate and convoluted way of saying they have no basis for making a demand.

But sounds like we agree, they have no real basis for making a demand.

austhrow743 an hour ago | parent [-]

Poorly explained maybe but it covers not just that there is no basis but that no basis is needed and draws attention to the odd request for a basis where none is needed.

Just "there is no basis" as a response would be like saying "yes" or "no" to "have you stopped beating your wife?"

cj 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

Aren’t we talking about enforcing/exercising a legal right?

Whether you have a reason to make a claim is much different than whether you have a legal basis for your claim.

robomartin 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In what planet does a lawsuit cost hundreds of dollars?

abigail95 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

$405

https://www.caed.uscourts.gov/caednew/index.cfm/attorney-inf...

bitmasher9 an hour ago | parent [-]

I’ve personally never seen a lawsuit cost less than a few grand in legal fees even for small time bully defense.

abigail95 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This one. That's what the filing fees are for a lawsuit like this. There's no rule saying you have to pay a lawyer to write a statement of claim.

Edit:

Courts deal with contract law disputes all the time. It's their bread and butter, everyday, nothing special stuff.

Edit2:

To you below, citation needed

lucb1e 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Is that also what it costs when you lose and the court makes you pay their lawyer time?

abigail95 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Use the CCB then?

Edit: I'm somewhat mad that there's all these tools out there to solve the screeching about GPL violations and nobody seems to want to use them.

apublicfrog 3 hours ago | parent [-]

For reference for non Americans/non legal people:

> The Copyright Claims Board (CCB) is available to resolve copyright disputes of a relatively low economic value and provides an efficient, less expensive alternative to federal court.

https://ccb.gov/