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jsight 9 hours ago

Years ago Google built a data center in my state. It received a lot of positive press. I thought this was fairly strange at the time, as it seemed that there were strong implications that there would be jobs, when in reality a large data center often doesn't lead to tons of long term employment for the area. From time to time there are complaints of water usage, but from what I've seen this doesn't hit most people's radar here. The data center is about 300 MW, if I'm not mistaken.

Down the street from it is an aluminum plant. Just a few years after that data center, they announced that they were at risk of shutting down due to rising power costs. They appealed to city leaders, state leaders, the media, and the public to encourage the utilities to give them favorable rates in order to avoid layoffs. While support for causes like this is never universal, I'd say they had more supporters than detractors. I believe that a facility like theirs uses ~400 MW.

Now, there are plans for a 300 MW data center from companies that most people aren't familiar with. There are widespread efforts to disrupt the plans from people who insist that it is too much power usage, will lead to grid instability, and is a huge environmental problem!

This is an all too common pattern.

nikanj 8 hours ago | parent [-]

How many more jobs are there at the aluminum plant than a datacenter? Big datacenters employ mid-hundreds of people

3eb7988a1663 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not only would I suspect that an aluminum plant employs far more people, it is an attainable job. Presumably minimal qualifications for some menial tasks, whereas you might need a certain level of education/training to get a more prestigious and out of reach job at a datacenter.

Easier for a politician to latch onto manufacturing jobs.

squigz 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm pretty sure both the plant and the DC have both "menial" jobs and highly-skilled jobs.

You don't just chuck ore into a furnace and wait for a few seconds in reality.

3eb7988a1663 7 hours ago | parent [-]

No doubt there is exquisite engineering and process control expertise required to operate an aluminum plant. However, I imagine there is extensive need for people to "man the bellows", move this X tons from here to there, etc that require only minimal training and a clean drug test. An army of labor vs a handful of nerds to swap failed hard drives.

jsight 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AFAIK, the data center employs more people. I'm not really sure why that's the case, but neither is >1k.

I'd guess that this is also an area where the perception makes a bigger difference than the reality.

wpm 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How many other jobs in the area depend on being able to get their aluminum stock orders fulfilled close by?