I worked in e-commerce SaaS in 2011~ and this was true then but I find it less true these days.

Are you sure that you’re not the driving force behind those metrics; or that you’re not self-selecting for like-minded individuals?

I find it really difficult to convince myself that even large players (Discord) are measuring startup time. Every time I start the thing I’m greeted by a 25s wait and a `RAND()%9` number of updates that each take about 5-10s.

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jama211 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Discord’s user base is 99% people who leave it running 100% of the time, it’s not a typical situation

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dijit 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I think that they make the startup so horrible that people are more likely to leave it running.

	▲	hexer292 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		As a discord user, it's the kind of platform that I would want to have running to receive notifications, sort of like the SMS of gaming. A large part of my friend group use discord as the primary method of communication, even in an in person context (was at a festival a few months ago with a friend, and we would send texts over discord if we got split up) so maybe its not a common use case.

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spockz 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have the same experience on windows. On the other hand, starting up discord on my cachyos install is virtually instant. So maybe there is also a difference between the platform the developers use and that their users use.

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drob518 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yep, indeed. Which is the main reason I don’t run Discord.